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Wyoming abortion ban blocked due to Obamacare era amendment
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u/eugene20 Mar 28 '23
"Abortion is legal in Wyoming again, oddly enough as the result of a state constitutional amendment pushed by conservatives opposed to Obamacare more than a decade ago."
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/24/wyoming-abortion-ban-blocked-due-to-obamacare-era-amendment.html
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u/ZeroInZenThoughts Mar 28 '23
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“An abortion can only be performed by a licensed medical professional, so what authority does the legislature have to declare that abortion is not health care when our laws only allow a licensed medical professional to administer one?” she asked Jerde during the hearing."
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u/padizzledonk Mar 29 '23
“An abortion can only be performed by a licensed medical professional, so what authority does the legislature have to declare that abortion is not health care when our laws only allow a licensed medical professional to administer one?” she asked Jerde during the hearing."
Its getting ever funnier. They made a real point to make those laws and made a big production out of it as a way to ensure that abortions were as restrictive as possible, trained M.D Specialists, ER Quality procedure rooms, Admittance Credentials to a local Hospital.....and now their only way around this Ammendment that was purely theatrics about "Death Panels" is to try and say "it's not a medical procedure"
I might die from laughter lol
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u/Blackstone01 Mar 29 '23
Hypocrisy has never stopped them before, why would it now?
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u/Kigarta Mar 29 '23
Guns don't kill people. My undocumented son that I borne at home to keep him out of the system and receive questionable schooling at my own direction did. But he WAS NEVER A PROBLEM until he left the front door and BREATHES YOUR AIR that he turned on us...
Something like that?
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u/LoveKrattBrothers Mar 29 '23
This is so unhinged I love it
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u/buttfunfor_everyone Mar 29 '23
unrelated- Kratts Creatures was my abso fav show on the telly when I was liiiike 6. 1996.
Those dudes are great!
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u/xavier120 Mar 29 '23
Because they put the hypocrisy on paper, which makes it much more real than the usual rhetoric they pull out of their asses. They played themselves so hard.
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u/AdmiralThrawnProtege Mar 29 '23
If they're saying it's not a medical procedure, then what are they trying to say it is?
Like I can't imagine it being anything but a medical procedure. Do they think it's a mechanical procedure and go see the same mechanic that fixes your car?
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u/TheFallenMessiah Mar 29 '23
They'll try to say it's not a medical procedure, it's murder. And hopefully fail.
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u/d3fr0st Mar 29 '23
Ah so this mean medicaly induced murder is banned through this law? Someone should tell the death penalty fanatics!
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u/Spadeykins Mar 29 '23
If your car starts giving birth I'd say that's a medical procedure for sure. Possibly a paranormal one as well idk I'm not a mechanic.
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u/heyredditheyreddit Mar 29 '23 •
I might die from laughter lol
Who cares? You’re already born.
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u/indifferentunicorn Mar 29 '23
Yep. Once we’re born we can all fuck off, laugh ourselves to death and hang from our bootstraps. And for children having children? Go fuck yourselves too in endless cycles of poverty. Stop wining and be a grateful grandma at 31yo. Fuck off everybody except other people’s fetuses to put in the frontlines and stock Walmart shelves.
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u/stupidillusion Mar 29 '23
Once we’re born we can all fuck off, laugh ourselves to death and hang from our bootstraps.
You're being ridiculous; once you hit eighteen they'd love to put a gun in your hand have you die for Nestle to protect their foreign water and cocoa interests.
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u/yerbadoo Mar 29 '23
Americans don’t hate rich people nearly enough for their own good, especially rich christians.
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u/OverLifeguard2896 Mar 29 '23
You'll first have to convince half the country to admit that the person literally shitting in a golden toilet doesn't have the common person's best interests at heart.
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u/SirSchmoopyButth0le Mar 29 '23
Basically you are right. They want as many people born by people that support them as possible to make new customers/followers to buy/believe whatever they are trying to sell. Since usually whatever they are selling is unhealthy or just outright kills they need new customers everyday. So, as usual, when the question of "why would they support things that are bad for people and the earth as a whole?" the answer is money. Probably cocaine and hookers too but first and foremost money.
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u/vonmonologue Mar 29 '23
The most annoying thing about that is that Nestle isn’t even an American company.
At least send me to war for Coca Cola.
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u/Gongom Mar 29 '23
That's why they want education and healthcare to be attainable through armed service
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u/LittlePocketMonster Mar 29 '23
Or add to the for profit prisons those wallets wont make themselves.
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u/Hexarcy00 Mar 29 '23
I wish I could find this funny, but they're such incompetent assholes it just makes me angry
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u/DannoHung Mar 29 '23
So, how long does it take them to amend their constitution? Because fascists don't care about appearing to be consistent.
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u/Bonesnapcall Mar 29 '23
I might die from laughter lol
I might also, except my cynicism tells me the Wyoming Supreme Court is unlikely to be as unbiased as this judge was.
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u/d0lor3sh4ze Mar 29 '23 edited Mar 29 '23
Punchy quote but her reasoning assumes that if a procedure is performed by a licensed medical professional, then it must be health care. This may not always be true, as there are some procedures and treatments performed by medical professionals that would fall outside the scope of "health care" in most people's minds, like cosmetic dermatology (botox), etc.
Edit: Lethal injection was a good example imo. And an interesting one because it arguably violates the Hippocratic oath.
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u/MyCrazyLogic Mar 29 '23
Lethal injections and thier formulas actually aren't always by medical professionals it's actually a huge fight.
And botox absolutely is health care. Ite has numerous non cosmetic uses and benifits for one. For another because it can fucking kill you if injected wrong it should 100% be done by a medical professional. Legally it actually has to be.
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u/Cats_and-Crochet Mar 28 '23
Something like "keep the government out of my doctor visits & health care decisions?"
I wish I could relax now, but the pro-life movement spent the last 50 years getting good at writing bills that stymie abortion in practice but are written to avoid triggering constitutionality objections in the courts...we haven't heard the last of this
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u/lickedTators Mar 28 '23
Yes:
Owens’ decision pointed to a 2012 amendment to the state constitution that granted Wyoming citizens the right to make their own health-care decisions.
Wyoming voters overwhelmingly passed that amendment, which was intended to protect them from hypothetical harms contained in then-President Barack Obama’s signature health law, the Affordable Care Act.
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u/SHADOWJACK2112 Mar 29 '23
The government is getting in the way of my government!
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u/ThreeHeadedWolf Mar 29 '23
Well, they call States' rights... when it actually is oppressors' rights.
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u/delvach Mar 29 '23
Plus, they bombed clinics, harassed women, and murdered doctors until they got what they wanted.
The right had learned that domestic terrorism works. It's like a dog that learns you'll give it treats when it bites you.
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u/cuddles_the_destroye Mar 29 '23
And now they're surprised when their places get targeted with arson and their people get bullied or killed.
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u/ultragodlike Mar 29 '23
They are NOT "pro-life", they're "PRO-BIRTH" - they don't give a damn about life
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u/lil_vette Mar 29 '23
I remember sitting in middle school learning about Roe v Wade and my teacher said that Republicans had spent the last 40 years chomping at the bit to get rid of it. And I asked “Is no one going to stop them? If there’s no opposition, they’re going to get it eventually”
Ten years later I’m surrounded by surprise Pikachu faces. As if no one imagined this could have happened
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u/yerbadoo Mar 29 '23
Lol could you imagine, being as weak and easily controlled as a christian conservative republican?
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Thanks, Obama.
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u/ZookeepergameNo2819 Mar 29 '23
Gracias Obama.
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u/menomaminx Mar 29 '23
ありがとうおばばさん。
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u/Meatwad650 Mar 29 '23
You mean ありがとうオバマさん
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u/Yazman Mar 29 '23
This actually means "thanks, old lady". idk if you meant that though.
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u/Cleverusername531 Mar 29 '23 edited Mar 29 '23
አመሰግናለሁ ኦባማ
Edit: translated to Bambara its
“Aw ni ce, Obama” including the space, and I am here for that.
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u/here-for-information Mar 29 '23
Aren't you supposed to use Katakana for foreign words and names?
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u/padizzledonk Mar 29 '23
All their hyperbolic nonsense about Death Panels turned out to be a good thing
What a turn of events lmfao
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u/Auctoritate Mar 29 '23
Broke: death panels are a thing
Woke: death panels are a Boogeyman made up to scare people away from better healthcare
Bespoke: actually the capitalist nature of health insurance totally does cause insurance companies and hospitals to make healthcare decisions based on profitability and people regularly die because of the decisions of companies
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u/Ocbard Mar 29 '23
Which is all good and fine for conservatives because it indicates the companies have the freedom to do business as they see fit. To them it's ok to die for freedom, even if it's only the freedom of an inhuman company to exploit people.
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u/Fake_William_Shatner Mar 28 '23
I truly enjoy how poorly thought out laws and ordinances that try and benefit a few targeted things without delving into any conceptual framework of fairness have a tendency to backfire in humorous ways.
It's like pushing bans on books for being naughty gets the Bible kicked out of the library. Or treating potentially pregnant women as two people allows for carpooling.
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u/dirtydave239 Mar 29 '23
The more shortsighted and reactionary a law is, the easier it is to find a loophole. There is zero thought that goes into these reactionary policies.
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u/Danelius90 Mar 29 '23
Oh there is a thought process. Whatever the Dems want, Republicans don't. It's so simple even an idiot would vote for it
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u/Gowalkyourdogmods Mar 29 '23
I mean, it's still a net loss. I'd prefer if the wins against them aren't laughing at loopholes that backfire on them in these kinds of singular cases.
I'll take what we can get at this point but it's still more sad than anything.
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u/unicornbukkake Mar 29 '23
At this point, laughing at them (while we work on dragging them into the 21st century) is about all we can do. Anything else gets a "triggered much" response, but their egos are fragile. Conservative politics have become a game to these chucklefucks and I'm fine with treating them like I would treat that particularly loud corner of fandom that ships two characters hard and acts like anything else is tantamount to burning a book.
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u/Then-Inevitable-2548 Mar 29 '23
The idiots writing these laws are christian dominionists. They'll just appeal to the supreme court where, now that it's freshly packed full of their fellow christian dominionists, "because I said so" is all the legal justification required to rule in favor of their own ideology.
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u/EarlGreyTea-Hawt Mar 29 '23
I really wish people would stop calling and treating conservatives like they are dumb, they are not dumb.
They have stacked the courts from there lowest to the highest, they're busy now stacking the school boards from the lowest to the highest, they are inundating municipal government like they did in the White Flight era, they've stacked regulatory and oversight positions from municipal to national, they wrote the playbook on gerrymandering, the list goes on.
Jan 6th and stop the steal even played right into their agenda by making Dems and democratic defense NGOs back off from pursuing the likely (as in, it fucking happened, unless we believe 160-200% of the legal voting population turned up to vote after years of low voting rates, or that tons of registered dems who voted Biden also just happened to vote for Mitch McConnell... there's more, read about Mitch's numbers here) chicanery of Republican run ES&S voting machines (and guess which company and now major competitor to ES&S machines was created out of an anti-trust lawsuit against ES&S...if you guessed Dominion, you'd be right... yeah, seriously, that's how smart these supposed idiots are).
They are actually pretty bloody brilliant and they're constantly winning (despite the fact that they should be losing) because of it. They're like the Columbo of political theater, and dems just walk themselves to the jail cell while joking about how stupid conservatives are.
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u/TheQueenOfCringe22 Mar 29 '23
It’s like how Sweden said that being gay was an illness, so the queer Swedes called in sick because they were “too gay to go to work”. You just love to see it.
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u/Johmpa Mar 29 '23
A lot of straight people did so in solidarity as well. They "felt a bit gay" that day.
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u/smallstone Mar 29 '23
"Uh, I sucked a cock last night, and I think I have a little case of the gay today. Sorry, can’t go to work!"
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u/Ocbard Mar 29 '23 edited Mar 30 '23
Don't we all feel like that sometimes, makes me think about that classic song, "When Johnny comes marching home", which in the original version that after the World wars made it to Europe contains that glorious line "We all feel gay when Johnny comes marching home!". I hear more recent American versions have that part changed, but I like it.
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u/thenasch Mar 29 '23
It did happen, but it was only a few people, not gay Swedes all over the country. It's a good story though.
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u/thdiod Mar 29 '23
I'm incredibly disappointed that I've only seen one single story about Florida's don't say gay bill (by which teachers cannot talk about sexuality) being challenged with the inconvenient fact that heterosexuality is a sexuality too, so any mention or insinuation of it should be a fireable offense. I haven't read the law in some time so I can't remember if their definition of gender identity is clear enough that teachers can still acknowledge the existence of boys and girls without being fired, but not discussing sexuality is enough that this law should've already spectacularly blown up in their faces.
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u/Cooky1993 Mar 29 '23
Does that also mean they can't shame gay people for being gay? Because that would be a significant improvement in many ways.
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u/Tangurena Mar 29 '23
The vagueness of the bill is deliberate. The Nazis deliberately passed vague laws when it suited them - in order to provoke fear in the intended audience. HB 1557 is intended to bankrupt school districts and teachers who might have anything positive to say about non-hetero people. In 1930s Germany, you never heard anything positive about Jews. This made it easy for the people to slide into anti-Semitic exterminationism. The thugs running the GOP want to duplicate this.
Our state passed a similar bill. While vetoed by the governor, our legislature reconvenes today (and tomorrow) for the purposes of overturning vetoes. Our state's constitution limits the legislature to convene for only 30 days/year in odd-numbered years. Today is day 29, tomorrow is day 30.
By June 30, 2023, the Department of Education shall review and update, as necessary, school counseling frameworks and standards; educator practices and professional conduct principles; and any other student services personnel guidelines, standards, or frameworks in accordance with the requirements of this act.
https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2022/1557/BillText/er/PDF
This final clause of the bill was worded this way in order to move the matter out of public sight and into the hands of political appointees.
https://www.nea.org/sites/default/files/2022-06/FL%20Dont%20Say%20Gay%20KYR%20-%20Updated2022.06.pdf
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u/Ixosis Mar 29 '23
My hometown rushed to pass an ordinance where only the US, state, or POW flag can be flown on town property so pride flags couldn’t be flown during pride month last year. Imagine their surprise when the next month, during the annual Italian festival, they weren’t allowed to fly Italian flags in the lamp posts because that was town property and the Italian flag was not one of the 3 allowed flags
Fucking dumb bigots
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u/yerbadoo Mar 29 '23
It would be humorous if it wasn’t vile rich christians doing it. They are society’s greatest enemy and educated non-christians need to start treating them as such before it’s too late.
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u/PatacaDoce Mar 29 '23
We have a saying here, "made the law, made the cheat (loophole)" which is used mainly to remember people to be careful with ordinances, laws, prohibitions etc because someone is going to find a crack on it and use it to circumvent, avoid it or use it on an unintended way for something else.
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u/saveyboy Mar 28 '23
Then they said abortions aren’t healthcare.
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u/padizzledonk Mar 29 '23
After requiring all the most ridiculous medical shit to restrict abortion like specialist doctors, trauma center level procedure rooms, doctors who had Admittance Credentials at a local Hospital
Hilarious all around
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u/Itbewhatitbeyo Mar 28 '23
Proves how stupid and shortsighted the GQP is. They really are their own worst enemies and I couldn't be happier.
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u/padizzledonk Mar 29 '23
The best part of it is the Ammendment "solved" a problem that didn't even exist.....there never were "Government Death Panels"
Knowing this was the result makes me want to go back in time, go to the Wyoming Statehouse the day after the Ammendment was ratified and let them know they just fucked themselves and they won't get to outright ban abortion in 10y now
They would be so confused lol
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u/Reasonable_Edge_4910 Mar 28 '23
I've seen this on this sub a few times in the last few days, cheers me up every time.
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u/padizzledonk Mar 29 '23
It is so SO SOOOO goddamn funny to me
The whole series of events that led to this moment makes it all that much more hilarious
They screamed and yelled about nonexistent death panels and passed this Ammendment, then they tried to be as restrictive as possible with abortion requiring all these ridiculous things, specialist doctors, Trauma Center Level procedure rooms and buildings,Doctors have to have Admittance Credentials at a local Hospital and on and on.....and now they try and say it's not a medical procedure lol
The whole thing is so rich that it's the height of hilarity to me lol
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u/AdmiralThrawnProtege Mar 29 '23
I asked another comment this, but if they're saying it's not a medical procedure then what are they calling it?
I'm genuinely baffled as to what they're trying to say it is then?
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u/wiggles105 Mar 29 '23
Anti-abortion lawmakers in Wyoming have tried to work around the 2012 amendment in passing the ban on abortion.
The state’s sweeping ban, dubbed “Life is a Human Right Act,” claims that abortion is not a form of health care.
“Instead of being health care, abortion is the intentional termination of the life of an unborn baby,” the act says, explicitly targeting the anti-Obamacare amendment in the constitution.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/24/wyoming-abortion-ban-blocked-due-to-obamacare-era-amendment.html
Edit: Foiled by mobile formatting again…
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u/AdmiralThrawnProtege Mar 29 '23
Has the supreme court ruled when a life begins? If so, not we're fucked with this supreme court. If so I hope they at least set it at a reasonable date of pregnancy
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u/Airowird Mar 29 '23
Except it's not mutually exclusive.
The difference between euthanasia and murder is precisely that it's a medical procedure
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u/SorowFame Mar 29 '23
It doesn’t really matter when life begins, no one has the right to use your body against your will, fetus or otherwise.
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u/Kichigai Mar 29 '23
You wanna know what the actual “death panel” provisions were? It was a part of the law that reimbursed doctors for taking the time to talk to their patients about advanced health care directives and living wills. It was a response to the Teri Schiavo case, where a woman had a heart attack and fell into a vegetative state, and after years of no progress her husband wanted to allow her to die while her parents did not. It was on the evening news nightly, and resulted in government involvement at all levels, right up to President Bush.
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u/padizzledonk Mar 29 '23
I remember, I'm 43....its good to recap that for the younger people though
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u/Kichigai Mar 29 '23
Yeah, I figured there's an entire generation of people out there who can drink, but weren't alive for 9/11. No way they knew about those events. Better safe than sorry there.
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u/2ndtryagain Mar 29 '23
There are Death Panels they are just run by Health Insurance Companies.
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u/Ocbard Mar 29 '23
Based on nothing more moral than spreadsheets that calculate profits and risk assessments. It's not like there's an ethical commission involved or something.
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u/TheineandTheobromine Mar 29 '23
You should hear what a “peer-to-peer” call is like, it’s awful. The doctor who’s patient is being denied coverage will lay out all the reasons why the patient needs the medicine/procedure/imaging and the doctor that sold out to the insurance company will essentially flat out refuse current guidelines apply in order to deny coverage.
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u/TrashApocalypse Mar 28 '23
Yeah, this is when I don’t mind a bunch of reposts. I need this in my feed right now
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u/padizzledonk Mar 29 '23
Its the best thing that happened this month....possibly even this year so far
So funny
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u/padizzledonk Mar 29 '23
Its the fucking best thing this month tbh
The sheer irony of it all is deeply deeply funny to me.
All their hyperbolic consternation over nonexistent "Government Death Panels" led them to pass this purely theatrical law a decade ago and now they can't pass an abortion ban
Hilarious
E- it was a CONSTITUTIONAL AMMENDMENT They are NEVER going to get the votes to repeal that......
Even funnier now 😄😄😄
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u/PerniciousPeyton Mar 29 '23
They can’t get rid of the amendment that easily, but they can appeal the court’s ruling to the Wyo. Supreme Court and potentially get the Jackson judge’s decision reversed. So unfortunately it’s not final yet.
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u/MuthaPlucka Mar 28 '23
Damn those are some well fed leopards.
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u/TheDunadan29 Mar 29 '23
This may be a case of leopards eating leopards. But the end result is still a well fed leopard.
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u/10kLines Mar 28 '23
There are so few adults in Wyoming already...the subpopulation of competent ones must be miniscule.
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u/EchoLoco2 Mar 28 '23
Obama coming in clutch
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u/rotospoon Mar 28 '23
Technically, Reverse Obama came through in this case
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u/mikefrombarto Mar 29 '23
Thanks, Amabo?
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u/snowseth Mar 29 '23
Amabo is the new term for "short-sighted dipshittery that backfires at some future point". It's German in origin.
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u/Geek-Haven888 Mar 28 '23
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u/slowclapcitizenkane Mar 28 '23
Judge coming in with that "Just because you assert something doesn't make it true" energy.
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u/dragonflygirl1961 Mar 29 '23
This is fantastic! I hope it holds. I worry about my granddaughters. I worry about all of the lupus patients that can't access their meds because of abortion bans. I hope that this will keep these rights alive in Wyoming.
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u/few23 Mar 29 '23
Conservatives will surely enact the "Do what we meant, not what we said" clause, somehow.
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u/RickAstleyletmedown Mar 28 '23
Why on earth would you link to an image of the headline instead of the article itself?
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u/heilspawn Mar 29 '23 edited Mar 29 '23
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/24/wyoming-abortion-ban-blocked-due-to-obamacare-era-amendment.html
Wyoming abortion ban blocked due to Obamacare-era amendment
PUBLISHED FRI, MAR 24 2023 3:29 PM EDT Annika Kim Constantino
Abortion is legal in Wyoming again, oddly enough as the result of a state constitutional amendment pushed by conservatives opposed to Obamacare more than a decade ago.
Teton County District Court Judge Melissa Owens temporarily blocked enforcement of the state's newly enacted abortion ban that took effect Sunday.
Owens' decision pointed to a 2012 amendment to the state constitution that intended to protect them from hypothetical harms contained in then-President Barack Obama's signature health law, the Affordable Care Act.
Abortion rights protester Caitlin Devore, dressed as a "handmaiden" crosses a street to join a a gathering to protest the Supreme Court's decision in the Dobbs v Jackson Women's Health case on June 24, 2022 in Jackson Hole, Wyoming.
Abortion rights protester Caitlin Devore, dressed as a "handmaiden" crosses a street to join a a gathering to protest the Supreme Court's decision in the Dobbs v Jackson Women's Health case on June 24, 2022 in Jackson Hole, Wyoming.
Abortion is legal in Wyoming again, oddly enough as the result of a state constitutional amendment pushed by conservatives opposed to Obamacare more than a decade ago.
Teton County District Court Judge Melissa Owens in a ruling Wednesday temporarily blocked enforcement of the state's newly enacted abortion ban that took effect Sunday.
Owens' decision pointed to a 2012 amendment to the state constitution that granted Wyoming citizens the right to make their own health-care decisions.
Wyoming voters overwhelmingly passed that amendment, which was intended to protect them from hypothetical harms contained in then-President Barack Obama's signature health law, the Affordable Care Act.
Anti-abortion lawmakers in Wyoming have tried to work around the 2012 amendment in passing the ban on abortion.
The state's sweeping ban, dubbed "Life is a Human Right Act," claims that abortion is not a form of health care.
"Instead of being health care, abortion is the intentional termination of the life of an unborn baby," the act says, explicitly targeting the anti-Obamacare amendment in the constitution.
The ban prohibits abortion in most circumstances, providing exceptions for incest, sexual assault, cases of "lethal fetal anomaly," or when the pregnant person's life is in danger.
Violation of the law is a felony and carries penalties of up to five years in prison and a $20,000 fine.
But Owens in her ruling Wednesday said the state legislature was overstepping its authority.
"To declare abortion is not health care when there may be evidence to show that it is — the legislature cannot make an end run around essentially providing a constitutional amendment," she said during a hearing on Wednesday, according to a New York Times report.
Owens added "the state cannot legislate away a constitutional right. It's not clear if abortion is or isn't health care, and the court has to then decide that."
She also told Jay Jerde, a special assistant attorney general for Wyoming who is defending the law for the state, "I'm just still hung up on abortion not being health care," the Times reported.
"An abortion can only be performed by a licensed medical professional, so what authority does the legislature have to declare that abortion is not health care when our laws only allow a licensed medical professional to administer one?" she asked Jerde during the hearing.
Owen's decision pauses the abortion ban until further court proceedings in a lawsuit challenging it. It's unclear whether the court will ultimately agree that the anti-Obamacare amendment prohibits a state abortion ban.
The constitutional amendment contains language that might allow the ban to take effect. That amendment said the state legislature "may determine reasonable and necessary restrictions on the rights granted" by the amendment.
Across other states, constitutional amendments have become unlikely weapons in the fight against restrictions on abortion. For instance, a judge in Ohio in October temporarily blocked the state's abortion ban because of a constitutional provision adopted in 2011 as a backlash to Obamacare.
In South Carolina, the Supreme Court struck down the state's abortion ban after six weeks, ruling that it violated the right to privacy in the state's constitution.
Similarly, a Florida judge in June temporarily paused the ban on abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy because it violated the state's constitutional right to privacy.
Those actions represent a broader shift in the legal battle over abortion rights after the Supreme Court in June 2022 overturned the half century-old Roe v. Wade ruling.
After that, abortion rights were largely left up to individual states. Some states rushed to ban the procedure completely, while others gradually rolled out new restrictions. Most abortions are now banned in more than a dozen states, including Texas, Idaho, Wisconsin, Tennessee, Oklahoma and West Virginia.
The Wyoming judge's decision on Wednesday comes as Republican opposition to Obamacare has died down considerably.
Obamacare aimed to make health care more affordable by offering tax credits for individual private health insurance plans and expanding Medicaid, the joint federal-state program that provides health coverage to lower-income Americans.
Obamacare also mandated that health insurance plans had to contain certain minimum coverage benefits.
Republicans strongly opposed the law at the time, arguing that it represented "a government takeover of health care" that deprived Americans of their ability to choose their own doctors and make medical decisions.
GOP lawmakers during the Trump administration repeatedly failed to repeal the ACA, much less approve a replacement law. In the meantime, 39 states have expanded their Medicaid programs to more beneficiaries under the ACA.
Wyoming is the sole Western state not to have expanded Medicaid.
— CNBC's Dan Mangan contributed to this report.
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u/Earthtopian Mar 29 '23
As a Wyomingite, it pleases me to see the GOP here accidentally fuck themselves over
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u/wilbur313 Mar 29 '23
South Carolina and Florida bans failed due to privacy rights in their constitutions? I guess I can look forward to hearing about some incredibly invasive surveillance program there after those idiots decide to amend away their right to privacy so they can ban abortions. I'll give it 3 years.
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u/Duderoy Mar 29 '23
I really wish I was in the the room when these dipwads said, "Wait, we did what!"
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u/sexymcluvin Mar 29 '23
Would these types of amendments and rules on them also apply to trans related healthcare? Seems like a good precedent to set to protect that as well
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u/chickenstalker Mar 29 '23
The US experiment with federalism is a failure. Time to form a true union and strip all powers from your states except maybe for parking fines and such. Disband all local police force and courts too.
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u/Black_Floyd47 Mar 29 '23
Someone else once said "The US isn't a first world country, it's really 50 third world countries in a trench coat" and it feels so true right now.
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u/pecklepuff Mar 29 '23
Well, maybe it's like 44 third world countries leaching off of six actually prosperous, successful states. But I get your point.
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u/BarklyWooves Mar 29 '23
We can call it the Union of States in America. That way we don't have to spend as much money updating logos and such.
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u/Embarrassed_Bee6349 Mar 29 '23
It must be painful indeed to inadvertently fuck your self with your own tool.
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u/mordinvan Mar 29 '23
The ER sees this sort of thing all the time. People 'falling' on all kinds of things, which then need to be removed.
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u/child_of_air Mar 29 '23
HA HA!
This speaks to the absurdity of the same group of people that refuse to wear masks telling women what they can and cannot do with their own bodies. Apparently you can't have it both ways, and the hypocrisy has always struck me as odd.
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u/ABenevolentDespot Mar 29 '23
Republicans elected to public office - collectively the largest group of drooling clueless assholes in all the land. It's kind of astonishing how their brain dead knee jerk reactions to things kick them in the nuts down the road.
The only thing they are really good at is taking bribery money from churches, corporations, wealthy scum like Bezos, Musk, and Buffet, and of course the NRA.
Otherwise, they're fucking useless.
Their national motto should be "First, harm the ordinary American to the extent possible without having them vote for Democrats!"
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u/Abstract-Impressions Mar 29 '23
Dog catches car. Gets a good look at the bumper. Sees a sticker. If dogs could read out loud, and he wasn’t holding on to the bumper with his mouth, he say “Thanks Obama”.
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u/limasxgoesto0 Mar 29 '23
In case yall don't want to click
Owens’ decision pointed to a 2012 amendment to the state constitution that granted Wyoming citizens the right to make their own health-care decisions.
Wyoming voters overwhelmingly passed that amendment, which was intended to protect them from hypothetical harms contained in then-President Barack Obama’s signature health law, the Affordable Care Act.
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u/Nole_in_ATX Mar 29 '23
John Oliver did a segment on this in his latest episode. It’s quite funny. Highly recommend.
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u/LabLife3846 Mar 29 '23
Those Republicans sure are the champions of smearing Fancy Feast all over their faces and crawling into the leopard habitat.
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u/International_Arm_53 Mar 29 '23
HAHAHAHA!!!! You hated Obama so much you screwed your own selves just to stick it to him. Seriously though, I get Texas and Florida making themselves dystopian nightmares because they have decent economies in their states. But I really don't get states like Missouri or Wyoming doing it because those states don't have that economy. Eventually these Republicans are gonna make their states so terrible and poor they'll have nothing left to rob, pillage or plunder. There's only so many extremist churches you can attract. And businesses aren't gonna come where people don't want to live?
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u/spudzilla Mar 29 '23
No worries. The GestapOP will just change the constitution again.
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u/ACpony12 Mar 29 '23
So, a friend of mine brought up something I hadn't even thought about while talking about how women are actually being persecuted (is that right right word?), for abortions. He says if the president is able to give a presidential pardon to anyone, then can't he just announce that all women getting abortions in states where it's not legal will be pardoned by him? I mean, it's seems like it would be as simple as that. But would that theoretically work?
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u/aquestionofbalance Mar 29 '23
President can only pardon federal level crimes, not state crimes, unfortunately
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u/ACpony12 Mar 29 '23
Ah, ok. I figured there'd had to be a catch. Though I still can't believe women are being treated this way at this day in age. We all have to push hard to undo this horrible damage the right wingers did.
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u/Cool-Word7496 Mar 29 '23
The president can only pardon federal crimes. These abortion restrictions are state laws, so only the relevant governor can pardon them.
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u/CommiePuddin Mar 29 '23
President can only pardon federal crimes. Has no power over state judicial processes.
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u/StiffDough Mar 29 '23
Wyoming is still refusing to expand Medicaid coverage as provided by the ACA. This goes to show how much they really care about keeping healthcare available to all.
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