r/facepalm Mar 28 '23

OMG Not Facepalm / Inappropriate Content

Enable HLS to view with audio, or disable this notification

[removed] — view removed post

47.5k Upvotes

u/facepalm-ModTeam Mar 30 '23

Hi, WandaMaximumoff. Thanks for contributing. However, your submission was removed from /r/facepalm for the following reason(s):


Your submission has been removed because /r/facepalm does not allow

  • memes/macros
  • obvious jokes/sarcasm
  • grammar/spelling errors
  • posts based on age
  • posts about likes/shares/reposts, etc.
  • direct links to Reddit or other social media content
  • witch hunts
  • posts that do not fit the theme of the sub

Reposting posts removed by a moderator without express permission is not allowed. Not here, and not on most of Reddit. Please read reddiquette (linked below).

For questions, comments and concerns, message the moderators.

Reddiquette | New to Reddit? | Reddit's Content Policy

Refer to the [subreddit rules](r/facepalm/wiki/rule9/), the [transparency wiki]

13.2k

u/tarc0917 Mar 28 '23 Gold All-Seeing Upvote Bravo!

37? In a row?

11.6k

u/Curleysound Mar 28 '23 Gold All-Seeing Upvote Take My Energy hehehehe Bravo! Golden Snoo Award

Try not to suck any dick on the way to the parking lot!

5.7k

u/Accomplished-Fee3846 Mar 28 '23 Gold Evil Cackle

Hey, get back here!

2.6k

u/Fine-Funny6956 Mar 28 '23

You know, there's a million fine-looking women in the world, but they don't all bring you lasagne at work. Most of them just cheat on you.

499

u/mikeumm Mar 28 '23

What's a good plate with nothing on it?

360

u/MidMatthew Mar 28 '23

She’s a dish. That’s for sure.

323

u/RockstarAgent Mar 28 '23

I'd rather have the lasagna. At least the guilt only lasts until the next plate!

160

u/Honeypalm Mar 28 '23

You dropped this 👑

→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies

74

u/thenicestsavage Mar 28 '23

Shut up Randall

8

u/pixelprophet Mar 29 '23

I'm not even supposed to be here today!

→ More replies

158

u/[deleted] Mar 28 '23

Or bang their students…

821

u/Gun2TheHead Mar 28 '23

I went to school at a time where we weren't fucked or shot.. boring times..

151

u/fitandhealthyguy Mar 28 '23

In my day the librarian was a much older woman. You didn’t want to know about her personal life. She wasn’t supposed to have a personal life.

78

u/[deleted] Mar 29 '23

[deleted]

→ More replies

27

u/TheRightStuff14 Mar 29 '23

I’ve got a flash for ya, joy-boy: party time’s over!

→ More replies
→ More replies

227

u/[deleted] Mar 28 '23

Same. The 90s sucked for this type of thing.

215

u/MrSlippifist Mar 28 '23

We just didn't tell everybody about the freaky teachers. Hey, Ms. Collins.

107

u/FootballWithTheFoot Mar 28 '23

Oh we all knew about Mrs Cox

(Not even joking about the name)

44

u/alien_clown_ninja Mar 28 '23

I had a Mrs. Cox in 5th grade. But she was an angry old lady

→ More replies
→ More replies

8

u/tekko001 Mar 29 '23

And if reported the police would only respond with "Nice!"

→ More replies

146

u/draaz_melon Mar 28 '23

It happened. They just got away with it.

→ More replies
→ More replies

58

u/TheTybera Mar 28 '23

Lol yes you did, just no one talked about it much unless it was in-passing, most people didn't care. Hell, there was one girl (17) who dated an older coach (mid 20's) openly, and no one cared. (80s-90s)

44

u/sandtrooper320actual Mar 29 '23 edited Mar 29 '23

My ex-wife’s high school (80s) had a similar situation, although I think the coach was a bit older. They got married after HS and showed up at the 10 year reunion, still going strong. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Edit: Also in Florida.

→ More replies

256

u/kropdustrrr Mar 28 '23 Calculating

My 6th grade teacher had sex with me. Kind of a problem because I was home schooled.

106

u/Gun2TheHead Mar 28 '23

Was she hot though?

129

u/RunZealousideal3812 Mar 29 '23 Tearing Up

It was an all male school…

→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies

188

u/CaliBull2030 Mar 28 '23

I’ll be in the parking lot just in case

8

u/MadNhater Mar 28 '23

You get in line buddy

→ More replies
→ More replies

212

u/bluelevelmeatmarket Mar 28 '23

I bet she’d fuck a dead guy in a convenience store.

115

u/CyberNinja23 Mar 28 '23

rewatches Clerks

61

u/jonahsocal Mar 29 '23

I'm not even supposed to be here today.

→ More replies

65

u/DJSugar72 Mar 28 '23

Kaitlyn Bree right? From New Jersey. 😂

53

u/500SL Mar 28 '23

I thought she was marrying an Asian drum major!

26

u/HelicopterVirtual525 Mar 29 '23

Design major!!!!

→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies

114

u/Roverjosh Mar 28 '23

Could it be too much coincidence that it was in “pole” county! Lol

58

u/CatBoxScooper Mar 28 '23

Unfortunately I’m originally from a nearby city (Tampa) and many people down there pronounced it “Poke”, so you’re not far off!

54

u/Rickb813 Mar 28 '23

There is more than one Polk county in the USA. But only one Grady Judd..

→ More replies
→ More replies

90

u/Old-AF Mar 28 '23

Pretty sure it’s “Polk County”, but so appreciate the wit.

186

u/TinfoilTobaggan Mar 28 '23 Take My Energy

I went to Polk Highschool back in 1966, scored four touchdowns in a single game... Now... I sell shoes...... :(

50

u/Crinni_Boo Mar 28 '23

Oh Al…

8

u/IncredibleCO Mar 29 '23

Heard that in Peg's voice in my head.

→ More replies

22

u/AKCrazy Mar 28 '23

How’s the Dodge running these days?

→ More replies

53

u/No_Method4161 Mar 28 '23

Still works! She got Polked by her students

→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies

79

u/for_fuckssake_ Mar 28 '23

That’s an unbeatable title motherfucker

→ More replies

826

u/someguyyoutrust Mar 28 '23

183

u/Fostbitten27 Mar 28 '23

Did he say “making fuck”?

46

u/Goldeneel77 Mar 28 '23

That’s beautiful man

121

u/Alt__PastaTits Mar 28 '23

BERSERKERRRRR

73

u/Robert315 Mar 28 '23

My love for you is like a truck……

31

u/What_the_8 Mar 29 '23

That’s his fkn metal face

33

u/thegame2386 Mar 29 '23

Olaf...Olaf, metal!

29

u/What_the_8 Mar 29 '23

Come on metal, girls think sexy

7

u/thegame2386 Mar 29 '23

That's fuckin beautiful, man.

→ More replies

8

u/Doktor_Nic Mar 29 '23

Fkn Yankee fkn blue jeans or some shit

→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies

38

u/Knitchick82 Mar 28 '23

“No, not in a row!”

→ More replies

107

u/Gigahurt77 Mar 28 '23

Hope none of the kids got the nickname “Snowball”. shudder

→ More replies
→ More replies

4.8k

u/HugeRaspberry Mar 28 '23 edited Mar 29 '23

For those wondering - this was in Polk County FL - and was in 2015 - she was sentenced to 22 years in prison.

Age of consent in FL is 18. Sexual relations between a person over the age of 24 and 16-17 years of age is a 2nd degree felony - statutory rape.

Edit to add:

Wow - thanks for the upvotes!

FYI - there is a Free Jennifer Facebook group - no I'm not going to check it out - and ...wait for it...

She was sentenced to another 3 years (Served concurrently) plus a year probation for 3 counts of sex with a minor in another county - because she admitted that not all the acts were in the same county...

3.6k

u/jonhammsjonhamm Mar 29 '23 Take My Energy

I think the craziest part of this comment to me is that the age of consent is 18 in fl, I was expecting some typically Floridian nuttiness.

1.7k

u/giraffeTbone Mar 29 '23

I was expecting some shit like, 11 if they can say their abc’s backwards.

814

u/Bigfops Mar 29 '23

It’s Florida, that might push it up to 30.

→ More replies
→ More replies

147

u/wmnplzr Mar 29 '23

What's funny is that the age of consent is 18 in only 11 states.

90

u/[deleted] Mar 29 '23 edited 4d ago

[deleted]

47

u/[deleted] Mar 29 '23

Correct. In my country, age of consent is 14 but it's elevated to 16 if the other person can exercise influence over the underage person, such in the cases of adoptive parents, legal wardens, teachers, employers, public officials, etc.

30

u/cdc994 Mar 29 '23

“Adoptive parents”. What the actual fuck

→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies

507

u/DjuriWarface Mar 29 '23

For those wondering - this was in Polk County FL - and was in 2015 - she was sentenced to 22 years in prison.

Age of consent in FL is 18. Sexual relations between a person over the age of 24 and 16-17 years of age is a 2nd degree felony - statutory rape.

Blows my mind that there is no Federal Age of Consent law. Surprisingly, this shit isn't even a liberal vs conservative thing. Florida is red, NJ is blue. Illegal in Florida, Legal in NJ as the age of consent there is 16.

Hell, there are states that it's legal for a 50 year old to have sex with a 16 year old and others where it's illegal for a 17 year old to have sex with a 16 year old. Even weirder are states where it's illegal for two 15 year olds to have sex together as they are both underage and there's no clause for that (Romeo and Juliet laws are the common name for those).

Shit is absolutely mind blowing to me that it's not really talked about. Maybe it's just my Criminology degrees talking, idk.

156

u/SylveonGold Mar 29 '23

I’m all for a universal age of consent law, so that adults can’t have sex with children. As long as we don’t impede on teenagers rights to experiment safely with their peers. That’s what those years are good for sexually. I treasure my sexual experimentation of my youth, because it was safe, consensual, and no adult abuse was involved, as it should of been. Every teenager should have the right to that as long as they are safe. We shouldn’t forget that with such laws.

→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies

679

u/Misophonic4000 Mar 28 '23

She had sex with three 17yo male students over some amount of time, and got 22 years in prison. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Fichter

434

u/ScrunchieEnthusiast Mar 29 '23

22 years is so much time. Could not have been worth it. People make such fucked up choices in life.

5

u/Falconflyer75 Mar 29 '23

Doesn’t even make sense, she’s 24 and pretty good looking, she could have walked into a bar and gotten laid any time she wanted, why ruin your life?

→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies

1.5k

u/HussingtonHat Mar 28 '23

Cue obviously South Park reference.

1.1k

u/gmewhite Mar 28 '23

“But. She’s hot.”

744

u/HussingtonHat Mar 28 '23

....Nice...

653

u/DipshitDogDooDoo Mar 28 '23 Got the W

186

u/TheDovahofSkyrim Mar 29 '23

This is serious….we need to find these students immediately and give them the luckiest boys in America medals right away!

→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies

393

u/nosurrender95 Mar 28 '23

"Dammit where were all these sexed-up teachers when I was a kid?"

286

u/Skiifast420 Mar 28 '23

The only crime here is she isn't doing it with me

→ More replies
→ More replies

55

u/sbua310 Mar 28 '23

But I want DICKINBAUS!!!

→ More replies

167

u/Coffeehound13 Mar 28 '23

We have to track down this kid and give him his Luckiest Boy in America award

→ More replies

59

u/justjason69420 Mar 29 '23

I scrolled for this. Niceeeeeee

→ More replies

55

u/Cliddefrog92 Mar 29 '23

Only crime is that she’s not doing it with me

→ More replies

5.1k

u/rastafariantrgryn Mar 28 '23

Damn! she’s got the crazy eyes.

2.3k

u/Yes-its-really-me Mar 28 '23 Dread

You know after the first date she's gonna text constantly. "Where have you been? Who were you with? Why have you taken more than 13 seconds to reply? Are you sleeping with another woman?"

4.0k

u/umpurple Mar 28 '23 Gold Take My Energy Giggle Defeated

“Why aren’t you in class?”

402

u/WastedPenny Mar 28 '23

What's that, 3rd bathroom break today? Who is the whore ?

21

u/ugliest_feces21 Mar 29 '23

"Why aren't you replying my message? are you with another girl?"

8

u/Cyclesadrift Mar 29 '23

I saw you got double potatoes from the lunch lady, what does she have that I don't?

→ More replies

252

u/ZestyAvian Mar 29 '23

"Are you doing other teacher's homework right now??"

→ More replies

65

u/ThreatLevelBertie Mar 29 '23

"One of us is gonna get a D"

→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies

285

u/ShuaMitsu Mar 28 '23

Never put your dick in crazy. Ever. Stop thinking about it. I said never ever. EVER

257

u/Notinyourbushes Mar 28 '23

So what you're saying is I should only put my dick in crazy for a little bit and only if she's hot?

103

u/Mindless-Artichoke71 Mar 28 '23

There’s a good video about the crazy/hot scale and it’s dead on

21

u/ThirdEyeExplorer11 Mar 28 '23

Link??

84

u/Mindless-Artichoke71 Mar 28 '23

7

u/orangemaroon25 Mar 29 '23

In college I knew a redhead girl named Tiffany. She's not a stripper, but she is a horse girl.

IMO she was farther along the hot scale than crazy, but she'd definitely have scored points in both.

→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies

54

u/angrygrumphead Mar 28 '23

But I can save her lol /s

→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies

1.2k

u/Hot-Character7511 Mar 29 '23 Silver Gold All-Seeing Upvote

My teachers looked like Sylvester Stallone

135

u/VeryNormalReaction Mar 29 '23

My teachers looked like Stallone's mom.

40

u/ajax5955 Mar 29 '23

Stop, or my mom will shoot!

→ More replies
→ More replies

7

u/[deleted] Mar 29 '23

And those were the female ones right?

14

u/Hot-Character7511 Mar 29 '23

100%.

They all looked like 80’s power lifters that enjoyed the company of other female power lifters

→ More replies
→ More replies

4.8k

u/griffusu Mar 28 '23 edited Mar 28 '23

We had one of these teachers in my high school. She was actually a counselor, which makes it worse imo. It was well known around the school too, even to the point that we all knew her “type”.

It’s kinda terrible to think about now, but it was played off like some big joke at the time… like it was so hilarious that our school counselor was this huge slut, but no one seemed to care that she was a literal fucking serial rapist that targets minors.

2.4k

u/witty_username89 Mar 28 '23

That’s not surprising, when I was in school I would have thought that was awesome and so would all of my friends. You don’t realize how fucked up sex crimes against minors are when you’re a minor, which is why those laws are so important.

1.5k

u/unassumingnewt Mar 28 '23

Said perfectly. I dated a man twice my age when I was 15 and for the life of me couldn’t figure out why it was wrong at the time. I grew up being abused, and this man never hurt me so from my perspective as a teen I was like “he can’t be a creep if he’s not abusive”. I am now at the age he was when he dated 15 year old me. I cannot for the life of me fathom being attracted to a teen…. Even the smarter more mature teens I know, are still children to me. The mental gap, is so astronomically different, and the power dynamic is so astronomically opposed… the lack of morals you’d need to find a vulnerable child attractive is terrifying. There is a reason they are called predators.

58

u/Count_Dongula Mar 29 '23

In middle school, I knew a girl dating a guy in college. She was bragging about it, like it was a good thing. She was younger than me.

37

u/iambeyoncealways3 Mar 29 '23

I knew a girl in eighth grade that was dating a highschooler. He would pick her up from school. They’re married now.

→ More replies

14

u/UsidoreTheLightBlue Mar 29 '23

Not middle school but I remember that happening a lot.

Girls in HS “oh yeah my boyfriend is 21 he can buy me beer.”

Uhhh…you’re 15? You know that’s fucked up right?

“Oh he’s so mature!”

No, not if he’s dating a 15 year old.

→ More replies

585

u/Mountain__dont Mar 28 '23

Yep. When I was 16 I "dated" a woman who was 28 and didn't think much of it until I was 28 and thought about the age gap.

118

u/smolhippie Mar 29 '23 edited Mar 29 '23

When I was 15 this guy (22) started messaging me on Twitter and eventually we started Snapchatting which led to him inviting me to come to CA to see him….. I’m 25 now but like in college I can’t even imagine being interested in someone who isn’t even old enough to legally drive…. Creepy looking back

→ More replies
→ More replies

213

u/RobertPaulsenSr Mar 28 '23

When I was 17 (m) a 32 (f)yo Spanish teacher had an affair with me, she was married and I lived at their house as an exchange student. Those were the days, back in 1997, Antioch, TN.

277

u/Peter_Parkingmeter Mar 29 '23

Bro you boutta drop your whole address and SSN here too?

170

u/Bignasty197 Mar 29 '23 All-Seeing Upvote

His name is Robert Paulsen.

41

u/spiralOut3 Mar 29 '23

Senior. So I guess he's reproduced.

→ More replies

41

u/Neosmurf4 Mar 29 '23

HIS NAME IS ROBERT PAULSEN.

→ More replies
→ More replies

32

u/penguin8717 Mar 29 '23

I was gonna say it's just a town and year/age but then I saw his username lol

→ More replies

24

u/terrible02s Mar 29 '23

He's leaving breadcrumbs since he's still locked in the basement of that Spanish teacher

6

u/RobertPaulsenSr Mar 29 '23

That's where she lives, lol

→ More replies

29

u/RelationshipEast3886 Mar 29 '23

Were you mentally scarred?

→ More replies
→ More replies

197

u/LeatherIllustrious40 Mar 28 '23

Yeah, I’m Leonardo DiCaprio’s age and I have a 19 year old kid. I cannot imagine what someone my age would want to do with someone 19. Just gross.

114

u/SvartholStjoernuson Mar 29 '23 Got the W

Yeah, 19 year olds are gross.

→ More replies
→ More replies

96

u/TCK_EarthAstronaut Mar 28 '23 edited Mar 29 '23

Same… I was 15 and he was 27. He was my house cleaner’s brother and she facilitated us meeting. Never hurt me, we had sex that I remember thinking was consensual. I’m 32 now, but when I turned 27 I was like wow… that’s fucked up and disgusting. It makes me sick thinking about it now. He has children now… I wonder if he still abuses teenage girls.

35

u/Alternative-Bison615 Mar 29 '23

I have the exact same experience as you, and I likewise wonder about what happened after me with the guy — he has four kids. I’ve been tormented for years by the thought of if or not his wife would/should want to know about who she really married. Very sorry for your experience, it never should have happened.

→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies

89

u/Mylaptopisburningme Mar 28 '23

When I was about 15/16 (male) I had a teachers aid who must have been in her 30s. We were sitting at the back of the class on the computer, she was sitting next to me and put her hand on my leg and started telling me how cute I was... Freaked me the fuck out and avoided being around her after that.

47

u/witty_username89 Mar 29 '23

Good thing you did. I often wonder how much of that stuff goes on that doesn’t get reported, there’s times I look back now and wonder if I was being approached and was just oblivious at the time.

27

u/Mylaptopisburningme Mar 29 '23

It was obvious with the one when I was younger. Many years later in my early 20s when I was in college had a beautiful professor, she would lean over me with her boob on my shoulder. I never knew her intentions, but she had to know... It was just a weird dynamic when she is my teacher.

8

u/witty_username89 Mar 29 '23

I’ve experienced the ol boob on the shoulder several times, one was my hairdresser who swore she didn’t know she was doing it, it seems hard to believe but maybe I guess. I had a habit of being completely oblivious to girls coming onto me even when I was interested in them though so I’m not sure about older ones being somewhat subtle.

→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies

95

u/RousingRabble Mar 28 '23

You sure she was actually doing anything? I used to work at a school and the rumors kids had going about the people working there were absurd and never true.

10

u/Happy-Gnome Mar 29 '23

We had a guy who was always really weird with kids in 7th grade, pulling girls into his classroom for tutoring etc. lots of rumors… and they were all true. He’s still in jail. Never know

→ More replies
→ More replies

134

u/MoarTacos Mar 28 '23

Was she brought to justice?

288

u/griffusu Mar 28 '23

No. As far as I know, nothing was ever done about it, and it was even treated like a “nasty rumor” by other teachers and staff. We’d literally get in trouble for talking about it, which is another thing that seemed totally normal at the time, but is really fucked up to think about now.

Tbf, none of the “victims”, and by extension, their parents, ever made a big stink about it either. Like I said, it was just a big joke to everybody. Small town things, I guess.

26

u/OverlyOptimisticNerd Mar 28 '23

Our history teacher/football coach was always inappropriate with the girls. He hired one of the students to be his kids' babysitter. He married her within weeks of her graduating. He only had two obstacles - waiting for her to turn 18 and graduate, and finalizing the divorce with his wife.

This was when I was in 8th/9th grade. Within a year he was already grooming the next batch.

128

u/RavenNymph90 Mar 28 '23

My sister had a teacher in middle school that was fondling the female students. He was not nice, let’s put it that way. Administration, parents, and the police all got involved. The police said they couldn’t tell if it was inappropriate touch or not (he was literally grabbing the girls’ genitalia) and the school said that if people were really upset about the whole thing, they would put an aide in the room. Somehow, people were supposed to just go about their business. I’m not sure my parents ever truly moved past that (gee, I wonder why?). This was an extremely small town with a lot of intertwined families. Looking back, this is one of those things that should have been broadcasted all over the state and reported constantly to the FBI. I hated that town and the people in it.

7

u/Rxbiin Mar 28 '23

Are you from AB Canada? Sounds like my town LOL

10

u/RavenNymph90 Mar 28 '23

No, but I’m awkwardly relieved that I’m not crazy.

→ More replies

65

u/Quality-Shakes Mar 28 '23

I think this was/is more common than people know. I personally know of three separate instances. My senior year, a girl in my grade was sleeping with the 26 yo gym teacher. A 25 year old I was dating when I was 20 admitted to sleeping with one of her 18 year old students a year before. And a friend of my wife’s spent a few years in prison for sleeping with a 16 yo student of hers while tutoring. I’m just a random average dude. If I know of three, then holy shit it has to be rampant.

24

u/ForsakenPercentage53 Mar 28 '23

Freshman math teacher in my high school started dating a former student "a year after she graduated."

He was younger, so everybody was just like... they just met after she graduated, isn't that so funny, small town teehee.

27

u/Claystead Mar 29 '23

It’s not technically going after kids, but I knew a female staff sergeant in the military who literally had a harem of young privates basically right out of high school. Young lads who don’t see another woman for months at a time get super thirsty and flattered when an older woman showed interest, so they all lined up, literally. She had about eight guys and at the end of each day she’d line them up by her barracks and choose one or two for "nighttime cleaning duty" at her barracks. Me and her were about 28, so a good decade older than these kids. I confronted her about it but she claimed it was fine because they weren’t her direct subordinates and NCO’s were allowed some "fun" after having been on tour. I really wish I had gone harder on her for that shit, but I was in a different military sharing the base and so had no direct line of contact to her superiors, plus she outranked me.

→ More replies
→ More replies

51

u/Afraid_of_Okapi Mar 28 '23

This makes me so angry. There was a teacher we had in junior high who would every single day stand behind girls to look down their shirts. We all knew he was doing it. When we talked about it, we were scolded and told to never accuse men of that kind of behavior.

10

u/duckbigtrain Mar 29 '23

Similar situation at my middle school. I still wonder about guy. A lot of girls said he was looking down their shirts and at their butts. Never found out if it went further.

→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies

7

u/thesillyshow Mar 28 '23

I mean, a lot of young boys fantasize about this, so it’s not all that surprising it was treated as a joke. I’m assuming we are talking high school at least.

→ More replies
→ More replies

272

u/chochaos7 Mar 29 '23 edited Mar 29 '23

Just looked it up. This is from 2015.

She was 30 when she was sentenced.

Her sentence was for 22 years

She admitted to aborting a pregnancy with one of the 3 boys (all were 17 at the time of the sentencing)

She was arrested in April 2014 after admitting to having sex with a student 20 to 30 times in her truck

She had an earlier incident at a different school. This was back in 2008 where she resigned from a teaching post in Orange County after allegations of inappropriate contact with an 8th grader. She was later hired in 2011 at Central Florida Aerospace Academy

Edit: for clarity

2nd edit: apparently this started in 2011 so I'd assume that the boys were 13 or 14 when it began since they were 17 at the time of her arrest (2015)

122

u/Try_Number_8 Mar 29 '23

Oh this is the first comment I’ve seen about an 8th grader. Maybe that’s why they were so harsh with her sentence, they knew about others but only charged her for these three victims.

→ More replies
→ More replies

25

u/Classic-Month-5184 Mar 28 '23

Al Bundy went to Polk High

→ More replies

3.3k

u/Jkevhill Mar 28 '23 edited Mar 28 '23 Silver Gold All-Seeing Upvote Starry Rocket Like Brighten My Day

Ah , at the risk of being downvoted , I have a different opinion . I was 15 when I started having sex with my neighbor in NYC . I also thought that I was the luckiest guy , having a grand time with an “older “ woman . It was only as I got older that I started to feel that overall it was actually a bad thing . First off our relationship was based completely on sex , we almost were never together outside of her apartment. It actually took me away from and stunted my relations with girls my age . I mean , why would I hang with girls my own age when I was having sex regularly with an older women? It took me a long time to recover and to look at women my own age normally , not expecting to have sex immediately with them . Overall I think it was bad . ☹️

578

u/cyberpunk1Q84 Mar 28 '23

Thank you for your insight and I’m sorry that happened to you. I get the feeling that a lot of the people saying “Nice!” to this are either not grown men or were never in this situation, so all they have is their fantasy to go off. We need more voices like yours.

85

u/CentralAdmin Mar 29 '23

This is the problem. It's a fantasy they had and anyone who has lived out fantasies can tell you the reality can be disappointing.

The problem is their level of ignorance. They are kids whose hormones are running wild. They are just thinking about getting urge satisfied but not of the psychological harm it could cause. They haven't lived long enough to understand those sorts of consequences. An older person can take advantage of that and scar them for life.

More victims should speak up and make everyone aware that it's not okay for us to excuse this behaviour. This is what a rape culture actually looks like. We excuse the rape of boys and men when women are the perpetrators!

6

u/ThunderClap449 Mar 29 '23

It's like drugs. Sure you may be having fun at the time, but you ain't capable of thinking about the bad side of it.

→ More replies
→ More replies

54

u/DeliciousParticular0 Mar 28 '23

You don’t see it at the time because no 15 year old thinks of themselves as a child, but you definitely gain perspective. once you are in your 20s and 30, it’s perfectly clear these “older women” are disgusting because you know now how someone that age views teenagers

206

u/ingframin Mar 28 '23 edited Mar 29 '23

Exactly this! Probably horny 15yo me would have smashed this teacher without thinking twice, even more than once. However, now that I am an adult, I am pretty sure it would have completely fucked up my life. I don’t the raped the guys, but the power dynamics are what makes this a complicated mess. What happens to a 12 yo which maybe starts catching feelings only to discover he was just used as a sex buddy? 🤷🏻‍♂️

EDIT: The kids were 17, not 12. I read it wrong. My point is still valid, though: it can be the best time of their life, or they could be traumatized for life with many shades in between. And in this specific case, the power dynamic is horribly wrong!

18

u/DebateLucky6596 Mar 29 '23

I wonder why these more nuanced opinions only come out when the teacher is a woman...

If it was a 30 y/o male having sex with 17 y/o female students, 95% of Reddit would be beside itself

I'm not saying I disagree with you, but I think the hypocrisy is definitely there

→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies

6.4k

u/pharmdocmark Mar 28 '23 All-Seeing Upvote Starry Eureka!

Call it rape. Just as if a man did it, he would be absolutely charged with rape.

803

u/Z0idberg_MD Mar 28 '23

I believe the news reporter was reading the literal charge: “unlawful sex with a minor”.

278

u/Ok-Champ-5854 Mar 28 '23

What's the facepalm here? I'm confused. It was proven she had sex 37 times with a few students. Or at least that's all the incidents she pled guilty to for a lighter sentence.

She didn't fuck 37 kids and the newscaster didn't fuck up reading it or anything, those were her 37 charges.

137

u/RealCSD Mar 28 '23

It's 37 counts but that could have been all done with one student. It doesn't necessarily mean 37 students.

96

u/chipchopanonymous Mar 28 '23

It was 3, 17yo students

63

u/Maleficent-Comb Mar 29 '23

That sounds like the start to a terrible math problem…

→ More replies

12

u/itsudarenani Mar 29 '23

17? lmfao minors? in 11 months they could be in gangbang videos if they wanted

→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies

15

u/amerkanische_Frosch Mar 28 '23

I think the point of her pleading guilty to all of the charges is that she made a plea bargain to be sentenced under the lower charge of unlawful sexual conduct instead of (statutory) rape.

2.0k

u/Ectoplasm87 Mar 28 '23 edited Mar 28 '23

Rape is a legal term with a legal definition. In some states Rape is defined as penis penetration. And therefore in those jurisdictions women cannot be charged with rape.

Edit: instead they are charged for similar offenses that typically carry the same penalties.

Edit 2: A lot of people don’t understand how legal definitions work.

134

u/copces Mar 28 '23

In my state, "rape" is not in the penal code. However, we do have "sexual assault of a child." One element of the offense is using your sexual organ to contact a child's sexual organ. I believe the wording is similar in many other states.

61

u/Ectoplasm87 Mar 28 '23

Many states have separate laws specifically when minor minors are involved.

Majority don’t even mention consent because it’s widely understood that minors are incapable of granting consent.

→ More replies

984

u/Int18Cha6 Mar 28 '23

Sounds like it’s time for the law to evolve.

904

u/WileEPeyote Mar 28 '23

Not in the US, we're busy devolving our laws.

234

u/Character-Release-62 Mar 28 '23

I wish I could disagree with you.

→ More replies

8

u/whistleridge Mar 28 '23

Lawyer in Canada and the US:

In most modern jurisdictions - certainly in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the UK, and the EU - “rape” is no longer a term of art. It’s all just a species of sexual assault.

The reason for that is that rape is a crime of intent as well as a crime of fact, and courts are forever arguing over definitions. But sexual assault is a clear and unambiguous term, and anyone can do it to anyone.

So somewhat ironically given the nature of the comments here, the evolution is away from rape, not towards.

→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies

1.2k

u/Comfortable_Light559 Mar 28 '23 edited Mar 29 '23

“Sex with students” = rape

why is this always said like the child could have some form of consent just because the offender was a woman ?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statutory_rape

412

u/B_Real__ Mar 28 '23

You miss understood. She had sex with someone who works in a mine. The charges are unrelated.

54

u/gmewhite Mar 28 '23 edited Mar 29 '23

“I’m not a minor, dumbass. You see a shovel in my hand?”*

7

u/Beardy_Boy_ Mar 29 '23

"No, you're a major dumbass, but that's not important right now."

→ More replies
→ More replies

57

u/Z0idberg_MD Mar 28 '23

I believe “unlawful sex with a minor” is the official legal charge. If you call someone a rapist you might be sued for libel. If you report on a factual charge against someone, you never can be.

→ More replies

41

u/WillowWispWhipped Mar 28 '23

It has to do with legal jargon I believe.

→ More replies
→ More replies

9

u/E_B_Jamisen Mar 29 '23

We need this judge for all rape cases.

→ More replies

396

u/ealv4c Mar 28 '23 Take My Energy

These comments are fucked.

→ More replies

1.2k

u/metal_bastard Mar 28 '23

I'm not gonna be the one to say it. But most of y'all thinkin it.

244

u/[deleted] Mar 28 '23

[removed] — view removed comment

38

u/[deleted] Mar 29 '23

[removed] — view removed comment

→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies

314

u/Biscuits4u2 Mar 28 '23

To anyone reading this: Do yourself a favor and don't read anymore comments.

→ More replies

7

u/Skylantech Mar 29 '23

Lol the amount of people in this sub who think it's a great idea to have "hot teachers" rape our children in school is absurd.