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Nashville police release security footage of shooter entering school
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/rcna76940[removed] — view removed post
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u/metalslug123 Mar 28 '23
Its interesting how authorities here are actually releasing security cam footage and police body cam of this shooting so quickly unlike the clowns in Uvalde who were pussy footing around and tried to hide their incompetence as much as they can.
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u/ALongOverdueSpanking Mar 28 '23 •
Basically because they did the opposite of the Uvalde clowns, they know they did well and want to show it (and what a good response and being public with information looks like).
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u/hghpandaman Mar 28 '23 •
I'm from Nashville and actually feeling a sense of pride in how this police force responded. The video was HARD to watch. My children are young and seeing a POV of an officer running through a school to kill an intruder reduced me to tears, but this is how the response should be. These guys just went in and got the job done.
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u/Then_Ask_1211 Mar 28 '23
Yeah Uvalde took 1 hour, 14 minutes, and 8 seconds to end the massacre. I'm still so upset about that one.
Watching body cams, the officer in POV gets there and under a minute he's saying "give me three" and going in.
I'm not informed on room clearing tactics, but they looked to be moving quickly and efficiently, and at the end when you hear the gunshots the officers don't hesitate, they move right in the direction of the gunfire and take the target down in seconds.
I hate that these shootings keep happening, and I do think we need serious reform for the police in a lot of ways, but I will also 100% call out that the Nashville Metro Police acted EXACTLY how you would hope police officers would act in a shooting crisis: quickly, efficiently, and bravely.
So well done to all the officers involved.
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u/chuckles65 Mar 28 '23
This is exactly how it's supposed to happen. This is the exact training we all get. After watching the body cam video I had no notes to give, they did it how they were trained.
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u/Paladoc Mar 28 '23
Yep, such a stark contrast to Uvalde.
These cops ran towards the guns. Thank god.
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u/duck729 Mar 28 '23
It’s sad when it’s refreshing to see police operating as needed, instead of hiding in hallways and refusing to enter. I’m glad they were able to cohesively and concisely handle the situation, but it breaks my heart that Uvalde should have been handled this way, but wasn’t.
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u/may0packet Mar 28 '23
i was gonna say, it’s sad that we’re pleasantly surprised when the police do their jobs correctly. that said, i think the media needs to recognize “good” police work more often. the cops that are truly heroes deserve to stand out amongst the rest, even if they were just “doing their jobs.” countless lives were saved thanks to those officers, now think about how many could be saved if lawmakers cared as much as those cops did!
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u/TheR1ckster Mar 28 '23
I was honestly really amazed. They went in with hardly any protection at all. They didn't even have ballistic helmets. Just a simple vest and only a few even had rifles.
It's such a shame we live in a country where they have to be a victim of the trauma too and we still won't do a thing to fix it.
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Mar 28 '23
There was a mass shooting in my city (Dayton , OH) a few years ago. It took place late at night in the summer outside some bars downtown. The police literally took the shooter down within minutes. Unfortunately, the shooter was able to kill about a dozen people in those few minutes before they arrived. But yeah, the response was amazing compared to the Uvalde tragedy
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u/HillAuditorium Mar 28 '23
it was actually faster than minutes. Police shot the guy in 32 seconds
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u/OrangeJr36 Mar 28 '23
They saved lives with their response. Big props to them.
So terrible for your community to experience this.
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u/GrapeFruttiTutti Mar 28 '23
The thing that got me was seeing the backpacks and cubbies and the little desks. We just went and toured a daycare/school with our 1yo twins last week, and they had cubbies and hooks for backpacks that I just thought was the cutest thing ever. My husband kept asking about security. My heart breaks for the parents and kids involved. I can't imagine that they'll ever look at cubbies and back packs the same.
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u/utkayla Mar 28 '23
My exact thoughts too. The stark contrast of all those sweet little jackets and backpacks filmed by an officer’s body cam has absolutely ripped my heart out.
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u/modernjaneausten Mar 28 '23
I was deeply impressed with their response. They didn’t hesitate at all and went straight in. They ended the situation in minutes with no second thoughts. That was so hard to watch but they should be proud. And the teacher/staff member that met them outside at the beginning should be proud of herself, she was so calm and collected. I would have been a basket case.
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u/5600k Mar 28 '23
Staff gets major kudos, they were clearly trained well, the dude ready with the keys knew exactly what they would need.
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u/swinging-in-the-rain Mar 28 '23
Bravery on display here. The video is very chilling.
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u/5DollarHitJob Mar 28 '23
Very true. Seems like a good example of how to handle the next one. And the next one.
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u/GoodOmens Mar 28 '23
Or a demonstration that with near perfect police response there is lots of needless death. Also PTSD for all those who survived. Those victims (both killed and survived) and their families now have a lifetime of shit to deal with :(
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u/brieflifetime Mar 28 '23
I walk a fine line right now. I was 10 and it was the 90's. It's harder for me when it's elementary than high school or college or even put in public. But no matter what, that's who I think about. The survivors are also victims.
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u/Keyann Mar 28 '23
The police cam footage from Nashville is incredible. From the woman outside who calmly relayed good info to cops before they entered and how quickly the cops swept through the floors and literally sprinted towards the gunfire. From entering to shooter disabled was approx five minutes.
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u/ScottyC33 Mar 28 '23
The woman who stayed close to the school despite someone there still shooting. It’s easy to run when you’re “safe” outside like that, but she stayed which is really brave.
Also the other school employee (I think?) who stayed by the front door to give the police keys. Brave actions by the two of them.
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u/squeaky_ghost Mar 28 '23
Yeah, the guy at the front door did his job perfectly. You could tell he was trying to maintain some degree of safety by tucking around the corner of the wall, but he was ready to pass off the keys to police the second they got there. Really impressive all around.
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u/fattmarrell Mar 28 '23
This specifically was almost unreal to see, but also gave a wave of hope that when it comes down to it, humans can put priorities and lives over their own. Humanity is fascinating and beautiful.
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u/jonny_sidebar Mar 28 '23 edited Mar 28 '23
Read in to how the residents of San Francisco got to work after the Big Shake in the early 1900s. Still brings a tear to my eye.
Note I said residents. Things went to shit when the state finally showed up.
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u/AggressiveToaster Mar 28 '23
It was less than that. From the officer arriving on scene (who unlocked and breached the school) to the shooter being killed it was three and a half minutes. Excellent work from the police here. Showed true bravery and efficiency, and I am not one to praise the cops here in the US.
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u/ladyluck754 Mar 28 '23
I was just about to say that! That woman is a hero too, she was able to remain calm and give the information the officers needed.
Fox News did not do a good job of blurring the shooters “disabled” body.. Jesus that was hard to watch.
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u/cujojp Mar 28 '23
Don’t forget Fox News once again claiming it was “a side door being unlocked” which was “a common pattern”, when the suspect clearly blasted through the entryway.
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u/Baron_Butt_Chug Mar 28 '23
The Uvalde cops are still trying to obfuscate and cover up thier fuck-ups to this day.
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u/ADarwinAward Mar 28 '23 edited Mar 28 '23
That’s because it largely worked. A couple of people lost their jobs, but the rest were just transferred internally and were not fired.
Their own local and state governments decided not to hold most of them accountable or address any of the institutional issues and poor training and coordination that led to what happen.
Yes people were cowards, but when that many are cowards all at once, you’ve got a huge institutional problem on your hands. They basically did nothing to address the larger issues.
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u/captainsmoothie Mar 28 '23
Legend has it, they're still waiting for backup in that fucking hallway.
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u/Stock_Literature_13 Mar 28 '23
I hope people who know the cops involved at Uvalde are tagging them on social media to these videos.
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u/ineed_that Mar 28 '23
I’m sure a big part of it is exactly for that reason. Way easier to release footage fast when it puts you in a good light. Good on them tho either way
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u/veerKg_CSS_Geologist Mar 28 '23
Always remember - when a police department says they can’t release the footage because it’s too early in the investigation or they’re still reviewing the footage or because it’s in someone else’s hands… remember how quickly they can release it when it shows them acting properly.
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u/WickedLilThing Mar 28 '23
Yeah, wasn’t there a court order or a FOIA to release that and the Uvalde police didn’t release it themselves?
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u/litnu12 Mar 28 '23
Nashville Police came saw went in.
Uvalde Police came saw waited.
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u/dylanisbored Mar 28 '23 edited Mar 29 '23
That guy who booked it straight towards the gunfire the second he heard it is a brave dude, much respect.
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u/Coppercaptive Mar 28 '23
There was a dead child in the floor he basically had to step over 2 seconds before he shot the attacker. I can't imagine.
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u/QuoiJe Mar 29 '23
Yup, that really broke my heart. Such an innocent life was turned to pieces by a complete sociopath. Amazing reaction from the police though, they probably saved a lot of lives with their quick reaction...
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u/Time-to-go-home Mar 29 '23
I was a student employee at my colleges’s police department. I help out with the annual active shooter training, usually as a victim actor.
My captain explained the basics of active shooter response. First officers on scene (are supposed to) go in and search for the shooter and stop them. That’s it. They’ll ignore any injured victims they come across. They are only after the shooter.
I don’t remember the exact terminology, but basically once an area has been cleared, it goes from a hot zone to a warm zone. Then following officers can begin administering aid to victims once they know the shooter isn’t in the immediate area.
Our school was doing the training with the city police and fire department. First team was all officers, second team was 2 unarmed paramedics in ballistic gear and 2-3 officers to provide security for them.
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u/independent-student Mar 28 '23 edited Mar 28 '23 •
Sorry to hijack, but it's important to note the media continues to do everything criminal psychologists recommend not to do in order to avoid encouraging more shootings. They make school shooters famous overnight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1JLYWkQHm0
Winning a Super Bowl or Academy Award garnered less media attention than committing a high-profile mass killing (Lankford, 2018.)
Not only are they showing big portraits/selfies of the shooter but they also show their weapons decorated with their favorite emblems and everything else.
Make sense of that without admitting this world is run by sociopaths. The media are bought and not our allies.
Edit: This just infuriates me. Show me a politician who tries to stop this.
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u/mavric91 Mar 28 '23
I have long been for this. Mass shooters get only a number. And a random number at that, so they can’t go for being number 1 or whatever of that year. And don’t even give them a nickname (like the Parkland Shooter, or the VT Shooter). Refer to them only as: shooter xxxxx, who was responsible for the massacre at xyz in print and media. The police shouldn’t even say who they are publicly. Never mention their name. Never show their pictures. Never print or distribute any of their writings or rants. Nothing. And do it retroactively. Burn any mention by name or appearance of previous shooters from the internet.
Let these fucks know that this shit will not bring them attention or infamy. If they survive all they have to look forward to is a dark cell with a number or their shirt. And if they are killed they get an unmarked grave and a number in a spreadsheet.
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u/Professor0fLogic Mar 28 '23
26 digit random alpha-numeric string. Make it difficult to even remember or recite.
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u/ObamasBoss Mar 28 '23
I have long commented to make it "piece of shit 472957256" and delete all other reference. The number is not sequential. It may not contain any cool numbersz such as 69, 420, 666, 88 and whatever else. The number of digits is inconsistent. If they are killed they are to be incinerated and ashes put in a random landfill out of state. If they are not killed they go to a supermax prison. Memorialize the victims. The news should be talking about the victims ans telling their story. Instead the article CNN put out was mostly about the shooter and had to scroll way past all that trash to even see anything about the victims.
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u/Daddict Mar 28 '23 •
How do you stop this? People want to know, the press has a right to report it. This is basic human nature, and every time I hear this shit I'm like "yeah wouldn't it be great if this fundamental aspect of the human condition were different". But it isn't.
It won't ever be different.
When shit like this happens, people search for information to make sense of it. If you conceal that information, the only thing you're going to do is breed insane conspiracy theories and hamper conversation about what made this happen and how we can stop that. Telling school shooters they won't be famous will stop jack shit. They don't care, they just want to hurt people.
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u/shwarma_heaven Mar 28 '23
This is standard training for EVERY law enforcement active shooter response... Whether you are armed or not...
Why? Because statistics saw the shooter is likely to off himself the second her sees LEO... Of any kind.
And if he doesn't?... Now his attention is focused on the police rather than his next victim.
Every 9 seconds - on average - is another victim in an active shooter incident...
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u/SmoothBrainedMurr Mar 28 '23
Holy shit that body cam footage was intense.
Those officers definitely saved lives that day. Sadly, not soon enough for those who already had been killed. But they saved lives.
That was crazy. wtf is wrong with people to punish innocent children for their anger and hate. fukn sad.
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u/PillarsOfHeaven Mar 28 '23
Anyone got a link for it? Article isn't loading for me
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u/CrabCommander Mar 28 '23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue2tZa4hT0c Found it off google.
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u/Michelanvalo Mar 29 '23
It looks there's about 9 or 10 officers who just went in with Collazo and Engelbert, including the officer who was on point at most times with the shotgun who was able to identify it was the second floor where shots were coming from.
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u/CBRChris Mar 28 '23 edited Mar 29 '23
Really, really makes Uvalde cops are complete morons , incompetant cowards, when comparing the videos.
Here they sweep through rooms with a sense of urgency, in the Ulvade video they just pack the hallway like sheep and sit there.
I really hope the Uvalde cops feel utmost shame and embarrassment when they see this footage of how it takes real fucking courage to go towards the gunman.
Major props to MNPD, but what a terrible circumstance (again).
I'm glad I don't have kids and live in the US. I would literally be too worried about this happening and just home school to be honest. The frequency this happens is out of control.
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u/julysfire Mar 28 '23
I really hope the Uvalde cops feel utmost shame and embarrassment when they see this footage of how it takes real fucking courage to go towards the gunman.
Oh don't worry, they don't.
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u/whenitsTimeyoullknow Mar 28 '23
I am sure they will retire with some kind of disability pension like that cop who got PTSD from all the trauma of having his snuff film released and facing public outcry.
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u/KeepaBlicky Mar 28 '23 edited Mar 28 '23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muz2EDhqEhs
heres a video of the actual body cam, including the altercation with the shooter
NSFW
EDIT: a more clearer video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frM1zPPrvaY&t=231s
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u/superbuttpiss Mar 28 '23
Id like to give major props to that school administrator who instantly started relaying info and the layout of the school as soon as they got there. Obviously a scary situation but she tried to convey as much info as possible in a clear and consise manor.
Edit: something about the way he says "yes maam" when she tells him that their are 2 kids that they dont know where they are at. You can hear an anger in his voice
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u/MBThree Mar 28 '23
Agreed! Also shoutout to their emergency management setup - this lady knew her job in this situation, and they very quickly knew that two kids were unaccounted for. Impressive.
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u/TrixnTim Mar 29 '23
The fact that those of us who work in public schools have detailed lock down drills that includes knowing where the kids are hiding, how many, and who is unaccounted for, ALL DONE IN MINUTES, should be a reality check for all Americans. Kids know how to do this. Every day of their little innocent lives. 😢
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u/jackruby83 Mar 28 '23
Christ. Those cops are fucking heros. Unlike the Uvalde cops 😔
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u/white_duke Mar 29 '23
Imagine listening to a bunch of little kids screaming and doing nothing. I hope they all live with that memory forever.
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u/xkatsu Mar 28 '23
I'll give credit where credit is due, these cops did their job as they are supposed to and deserve to be commended for their bravery.
Good job not skipping a beat and confronting that attacker ASAP.
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u/I_ONLY_PLAY_4C_LOAM Mar 28 '23
A lot of these cops look like they showed up with what they had. Many of them aren't wearing body armor or don't have heavier weapons. They went in basically as soon as their training said they had enough guys.
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u/-RYknow Mar 28 '23
Between that, and just the situational awareness. The guy that delivered the first shots is running for toward the gun fire... When he arrives gets 4 shots off to drop the threat... And given what's just occurred... Still put the safety on immediately.
Dudes execution of his training was spot on.
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u/HaHa_Simply_lovely Mar 29 '23
He had only been an officer for 4 years. He is basically brand new. He isn't a military veteran or anything so this is all training.
They should make sure to commend the organizations and people involved in his training pipeline
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u/I_ONLY_PLAY_4C_LOAM Mar 28 '23
You'll also note his finger isn't on the trigger until he's identified the shooter. Very disciplined in a situation where there could be hostages or people still in the building.
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u/thermiteunderpants Mar 29 '23
I don't know anything about firearms but surely the distance between having your finger on and off the trigger must feel like a fucking mile in a situation like this. Not having my finger on the trigger when I know an armed killer is on the loose would basically make me feel unarmed I imagine. What I'm trying to say is it must take a lot of balls to have such good discipline.
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u/LeroyMoriarty Mar 28 '23
Yea. That larger officer who moved out of the way. He had a vest but otherwise in a tshirt with a 9, alone, in a 4 way hallway trying to find gunfire. Adrenaline or no it’s still balls of steel.
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u/MBThree Mar 28 '23
Some of them were going in with handguns, not rifles. This despite hearing rifle fire upstairs, and knowing full well so many school shooters lately have been armored up.
They gotta know they are taking a big risk going in under-geared, so major props to these officers.
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u/Waynersnitzel Mar 28 '23
Some people may not remember the Nashville “Christmas” bombing in 2020 as only the suspect was killed, but Nashville police were incredibly brave going into the area with a known VBIED and evacuating residents. I remember seeing their work getting homeless from the blast area and was impressed.
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u/PlumLion Mar 28 '23
One of the two officers who took down the shooter (officer Colazzo) also responded to the Christmas bombing.
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u/HaHa_Simply_lovely Mar 29 '23
Poor guy is living in an action movie.
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u/PlumLion Mar 29 '23
I read that he’s a former Marine, former firefighter, and current SWAT team medic so you’re not lying
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u/baxterstate Mar 28 '23
Regardless of the resentment, murdering people who weren’t even born when you went to that school makes no sense.
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u/dogsent Mar 28 '23
At 9:57 a.m., just minutes before the shootings, Hale’s former middle school basketball teammate received a message from Hale that read, “so basically that post I made on here about you, that was basically a suicide note. I’m planning to die today. THIS IS NOT A JOKE!!! You’ll probably hear about me on the news after I die,”
https://heavy.com/news/audrey-hale/
This was a planned suicide. It's hard to understand the thinking. Life didn't matter. I guess that included the lives of others.
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u/liabluefly Mar 28 '23
I think it's the case with most of this type of shooting that it's a very violent means of suicide.
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u/wyldphyre Mar 28 '23
The researchers cited there point out that if so many mass shooters are committing a violent suicide then a lot of the interventions proposed (arm the teachers, for example) won't be very effective deterrents to future mass shootings.
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u/sarcasticbaldguy Mar 28 '23
This was a planned suicide
I wish people didn't have to feel so lost, hopeless, and alone that ending their life was the only way out.
That said, I also wish people who have made this decision would just do it without taking other people with them. From their perspective, the result will be the same.
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u/metanoia29 Mar 28 '23
I wish people didn't have to feel so lost, hopeless, and alone that ending their life was the only way out.
I just watched a video of someone reading a letter from an author at a school board meeting, the author had written a book called 19 Minutes that was about a school shooting. The letter included the fact that the author heard from quite a few people who said that reading that book stopped them from carrying out a shooting themselves, because they finally felt heard and understood. Of course, conservatives want to ban that book because it includes a description of rape on one page. Not only do they refuse to hold gun companies accountable and help write stricter gun laws, but they're also removing resources that can prevent these tragedies.
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u/WigginIII Mar 28 '23 edited Mar 28 '23
It makes me wonder if it's some sort of cruel payback to society. Like they perceive that they were ignored by society and this is their way to leave a mark on society to let the world know they existed...before they no longer do. They perceive that the best/easiest/most effective way to be remembered is to commit a mass shooting. It doesn't matter if they receive fame or infamy, they only wanted to be seen/heard/remembered.
(This is not a defense of the shooter's actions, but an introspective into their motives or thought process).
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u/-lighght- Mar 28 '23
This is the motive behind most mass shootings, if I had to put my money on a single motive. They were wronged, and in their mentally ill brains, they decide that they're going to commit the most ultimate wrong as payback.
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u/Levonorgestrelfairy1 Mar 28 '23
I mean they coulda just ran into a police station with an unloaded gun.
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u/Bottom_Wobbles Mar 28 '23
I mean, Sandy Hook, Uvalde, etc., etc. We have entered the copycat phase for infamy.
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u/king0pa1n Mar 28 '23
On their message to a friend they were like "this is my suicide note, see you in the afterlife" all innocent sounding. If there's an afterlife, you're going to the wrong one now fucker.
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u/knive404 Mar 28 '23
How is it possible an organization as big as NBC has a website that is THAT AWFUL
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u/bootstrapping_lad Mar 28 '23
The video is still not working and I'm getting popover ads for shitty shoes.
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u/CaptinDerpI Mar 28 '23
This is like the exact opposite of what happened in Uvalde, Texas. Cops were actually rushing in to help in Nashville, and not cowering like Uvalde
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u/Budmanes Mar 28 '23
Just watched the footage of the police entering building and neutralizing Shooter. After seeing Uvalde shitshow, was nice to see these officers racing in to protect kids at their personal peril.
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u/_Myst_0 Mar 28 '23
3 minutes between entering the school and killing the shooter. That’s some quality police work. Bravo.
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u/MBThree Mar 28 '23
I saw the footage released was 6ish minutes - I wasn’t expecting it to include TWO body cam videos
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u/civilwarman Mar 28 '23
I hope the coward cops in Uvalde see this and are haunted by their cowardice and inaction.
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u/NoeZip Mar 28 '23
I saw a news video saying that the shooting was a “wake-up call” for America. Bruh what the fuck. We already had a wake up call with Uvalde. How many more fucking wake up calls do we need? What makes me happy is that the police did release footage really quick. Unlike the shit-head police in Uvalde that took 1 fucking hour to kill the shooter.
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u/ImpenetrableYeti Mar 28 '23
If sandy hook wasn’t a wake up call then nothing will be sadly.
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u/Ruben625 Mar 28 '23
We had a wake up call with Columbine. Things have only gotten worse.
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u/WildSauce Mar 29 '23
Columbine was the original shooting that woke the news up to how much money they can make from their breathless reporting on these events. Columbine was not the first mass shooting, but it was the first widely televised mass shooting that made the killers famous. And surprise surprise, making those murderers famous has created dozens of copycats.
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u/hustlersambition9 Mar 28 '23
This just makes the Uvalde response more sickening. To think 100+ armed to the teeth so called police in Uvalde, left innocent elementary school kids and their brave teachers alone with a gunman, heard the gun shots, screaming kids and did nothing! Unbelievable! I bet even a bunch of dope dealers would have rushed into the Uvalde school to shoot the killer.
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u/untouchable765 Mar 28 '23
Great job officers no hesitation at all. Saved many lives.
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Mar 28 '23
Frustrstion i understand, Why hurt kids i dont understand
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u/NaughtySeer Mar 28 '23
Apparently to get attention. The shooter wrote a manifesto that has not been released.
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A clear motive in the shooting has yet to be established, but police have said they believe a sense of "resentment" may have played a role.
“There’s some belief that there was some resentment for having to go to that school,” Drake told Lester Holt of NBC News.
Telling everyone it was resentment for having to go to that school and nothing else is going to lead to more incorrect guessing and propaganda spread, they need to be clear about this
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u/GiraffePolka Mar 28 '23
Depending on how unhinged the person was, it might not be very clear. If their manifesto is just helter skelter nonsense, I mean.
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u/rekniht01 Mar 28 '23 •
Las Vegas shooter calling in...
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u/Scoutster13 Mar 28 '23
Right? Did we ever unravel WTF was up with that guy? It is amazing to me we had such an event and did fucking nothing. I knew though after Sandy Hook that we wouldn't fix this I guess but it's just so sickening.
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u/KingZarkon Mar 28 '23
Did we ever unravel WTF was up with that guy?
No. They never did find a motive or anything for the guy.
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u/sluttttt Mar 28 '23
Vegas' solution seems to be making sure that you have a room key before you can enter an elevator to get to the rooms. Which doesn't really make any amount of sense since the Vegas killer had a room in that hotel. It's all security theater.
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u/CrysisCamaro Mar 28 '23
Wasn't that already a thing before the vegas shooting?
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u/SadlyReturndRS Mar 28 '23
Only in some hotels.
Many hotels, especially in places like Vegas, or Miami, don't require card keys to ride the elevators simply because they're fully aware of all the other kinds of work that goes on in a big hotel in a city like that. Hotel guests have guests of their own, and often don't want to be seen with those guests.
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u/captainbawls Mar 28 '23
I can confirm at the Venetian this policy was in place as of at least 2015, two years prior to the shooting.
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u/BroncoMan43 Mar 28 '23
That isn’t a response to the Route 91 shooting. It’s a response to trick rolls, room parties that devolve into shootings, and door push burglaries.
The response for shootings is that they WILL come into and clean rooms at least every other day. You can’t hang a do not disturb sign for a week and keep everyone out. Also, the hotels started hiring former military and law enforcement for response teams. They’re security but only exist to respond to active shooter style events on property.
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u/snotbottom Mar 28 '23
According to news articles, they found plans for entering another school at their home, but decided it would be to be too difficult. I think simply being more familiar with this school made it the easier target.
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u/sluttttt Mar 28 '23
That reminds me of the Buffalo shooter. He originally intended to go to a different store but found the security to be too strong. It's freaky as hell to know that some of these killers spend months figuring out how to carry out their plans. Not that people who do it without planning are less scary, though. But somehow it's more disturbing.
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u/edgarapplepoe Mar 28 '23
Ya and the store had a guard that shot him too, just didnt get through his vest.
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u/BezniaAtWork Mar 28 '23
And he wore that vest specifically with the guard's gun in mind
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u/RoninDelta1970 Mar 29 '23
Living at home, clearly going through a mental health crisis yet has no problem legally purchasing 7 guns
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u/atxjaneway Mar 28 '23
watching the body cam footage and seeing the cops walk by the cubbies with small jackets and lunchboxes inside, walk through the halls with posters and drawings on the walls and guns drawn, just absolutely broke me. this country has failed its children, failed its parents, failed EVERYONE. it's sickening and heartbreaking. where do we possibly go from here knowing nothing will change?
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u/bigwilly311 Mar 28 '23
You gotta be a real piece of shit to kill children in a fucking school
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u/turlockmike Mar 28 '23
I want to applaud the officers. They saved lives. Professional with a sense of urgency and no hesitation. I teared up watching the video, thinking of the victims. This was true bravery.
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u/moody4foody Mar 28 '23
The cops did a good job. Watching the camera footage especially where they take down the shooter was like watching a horrific video game. It made me cry. In one of the videos someone posted in comments you see them run past a dead kid (they blurred the kid out). The shooter was still reaching for their gun after being shot. I really want to cry again. I wish things were better here and that kids didn't keep getting killed like this.
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u/SpookiBooogi Mar 28 '23
this was a hard watch, the body on the floor and the school settings made me upset.
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u/Gimmethejooce Mar 29 '23
The fact that we are comparing and ranking school shooting responses these days…
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u/BlackOrre Mar 28 '23
The fact this asshole was still reaching for the gun after the police blew open the bastard's guts speaks volumes.
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u/ARB_COOL Mar 28 '23
These shooters know they aren’t getting out, they just want to kill as many as possible while they still live.
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u/BigShowSJG Mar 28 '23 edited Mar 28 '23
The shooter may already have been dead and the gun was just near their hand. Competent police won’t Assume you’re dead. They’ll treat you as if you’re alive until they’re certain you aren’t.
EDIT: More footage has been released and they were killed by the shots. Their hand was basically twitching, and the rifle had dropped about 6” from them.
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u/MynameNEYMAR Mar 28 '23
People in this thread don’t realize “eliminating a threat” basically equates to dumping a clip into somebody’s chest in reality
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u/SpaceCadetriment Mar 28 '23
Also “shoot to wound” isn’t a thing and only happens in movies. With any potentially lethal hostile threat, it’s center mass and don’t stop shooting until there is no longer movement and/or the threat is neutralized.
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u/Dgb_iii Mar 28 '23
“I’m planning to die today.”
goes to the softer target because the security was too hard at the other, kills kids
Tough talk from someone who is hopefully rotting in agonizing hell.
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u/Silence-Doowrong Mar 28 '23
The bravery of that child hero who pulled the alarm. That was rough to see even blurred out.
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u/billpalto Mar 28 '23 •
The video shows the police *running* in to confront the shooter.
Not like the Uvalde cowards.