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Twitter restricts Marjorie Taylor Greene after tweets about trans people and Nashville shooting
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/twitter-ban-marjorie-taylor-greene-b2309784.html5.0k
u/nc1264 Mar 28 '23
You wonder why someone this stupid still has a podium.
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u/yeswecann Mar 28 '23 •
She doesn't know how to get down
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u/WholeWheatCloud Mar 29 '23
Cows can’t walk down stairs. Even the privileged ones.
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u/Nuppmiddt Mar 29 '23
Excuse me- cows are lovely, gentle, sensitive animals and I take umbrage on their behalf.
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u/razzled18 Mar 29 '23
I second this. Don’t disgrace our cows by comparing them with her dumb ass
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u/Kyonikos Mar 29 '23
For that matter some not very bright people are also lovely, gentle and sensitive. There are many ways to be a valuable human being.
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u/hodorhodor12 Mar 29 '23
Because the constituents are even stupider.
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u/zbertoli Mar 29 '23
Well, it didn't help that she ran unopposed the first time. But I think she beat someone the second time. I'm from ATL, and I can confirm that the north GA cartersville area is straight up garbage ville.
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u/Barl0we Europe Mar 29 '23
Didn’t someone threaten her opposition into not running on the second go around? I seem to have vague memories…
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u/SectualOrgan Mar 29 '23
no. she actually had someone run against her last time. He was a good guy. Veteran, left leaning centrist. he had common sense. The problem was his campaign. I really liked Marcus Flowers but his entire campaign was “I’m not MTG”. The problem with this district is you have a lot of people who would vote a bag of literal dog crap into office if it ran as a republican just to keep them “soshulist democraps” out of office.
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u/quiero-una-cerveca Mar 29 '23
Think it was NPR that did a history piece on her. Wow, a lot of messed up shit in that area. Kinda makes you want to get out of town before sunset.
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u/thispsyguy Mar 29 '23
Cause the people who put her there are just as stupid.
As a Canadian, I Look at the Republican Party, I look at the idiots who vote for them, and it seems like the country is getting a pretty fair representation based on its population.
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u/bipedal___bitch Mar 29 '23
As a fellow Canadian it’s terrifying to see it creeping over the border. Like looking at the state of things down there, why the fuck would you want to inch in that direction?
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u/thispsyguy Mar 29 '23
Like the trucks flying the canadian flag…
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u/Melodic-Result6802 Mar 29 '23
Even better is the strange people I’ve seen in Canada running the US confederate flag. Now that is a head scratcher.
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u/TheShadowKick Mar 29 '23
Still not as perplexing as seeing West Virginians waving the confederate flag while bleating about their "heritage".
For those not well-versed in US history, West Virginia only exists because they refused to secede with the rest of Virginia at the start of the US Civil War.
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u/wileydmt123 Mar 29 '23
So kids can be taught active shooter drills in school but aren’t allowed to sing about rainbows. Got it.
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u/ShadowZepplin Utah Mar 29 '23
Nor learn about why Rosa parks refused to sit in the back of the bus
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u/Druark Mar 29 '23
Mildly amusingly, we learned about that in the UK when I was at school. So we learn more of your history than you do it seems.
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u/Russington Mar 29 '23
Well the rest of the curriculum is whitewashing British colonialism so we probably haven't got a huge amount to brag about.
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u/suspiciouspunk Mar 29 '23
Germany does a great job in dealing with it's (dark) past in schools. Not only were we taught what the [email protected] did but also why people followed and how it came to it. Every country (especially the "western" ones) should handle their own history like that.
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u/MisanthropicZombie Mar 29 '23
Back in my day rainbows were just happy accoutrements for school construction paper murals of diverse people playing outside with kites, various sport balls, and balloons for some reason.
It wasn't like gay people didn't exist; the rainbow had long been invented and gloriously appropriated as a fabulous banner of love.
How pathetic and small of a person you have to be to be threatened by the depiction of refracted light.
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u/yeetingthisaccount01 Europe Mar 29 '23
the rainbow was a great choice tbh, each stripe and colour has a meaning and it works well for uniting all forms of queer people
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u/im_neegus Mar 29 '23
All of sudden, the GOP does not think it is too quick to “politicize” a tragedy
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u/rosencrantz2014 Mar 28 '23
GOP is full of fucking monsters, they're trying to sell this narrative since the shooting happened, disgusting.
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u/robotdesignwerks Texas Mar 29 '23
we should take a page out of the sinister right's playbook...
"this was obviously a false flag, and the shooter was a right winger pretending to be trans!11!!"
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u/Flaky_Seaweed_8979 Mar 29 '23
Wow how fucked up is that.
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u/MississippiJoel America Mar 29 '23
This was the guy whose dad actually said "wait, why was my son in a gay nightclub? OH, he was the shooter‽ Whew! You really scared me for a second."
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u/bakedtran Arizona Mar 29 '23
That video still haunts me. The country is full of people who are that unreachable, who would rather see us all die than have their kid turn out queer in any way. And we can’t just wait for them to die off because they’re grooming their kids to kill us in their stead.
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u/APoopingBook Mar 29 '23
Oh the person who never once referred to themselves as trans right up until the very moment of the trial, and then stopped afterwards?
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u/C2litro Mar 29 '23
That's the Colorado Springs shooter who shot a gay nightclub. The DA "said the suspect being nonbinary was 'part of the picture' in considering hate crime charges but he wouldn't elaborate."
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u/Eggsegret Mar 28 '23
They do this with every shooting. Blame anything else but guns.
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u/ATTORNEY_FOR_CATS Mar 29 '23
“Guns aren’t the problem, it’s:
Video gamesAbsent fathersMental healthLack of police in schoolsUnarmed teachersReligious declineToo many doorsSlow police response- Trans people”
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u/LivingLosDream Mar 29 '23
Side doors.
That’s according to some wacko on Fox News yesterday too.
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u/ErusTenebre California Mar 29 '23
Somewhere a sleeping Fire Marshal perks his head up.
"They said wat now!?"
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u/_Bill_Huggins_ Mar 29 '23
They were blaming the lack of prayer in schools as well. Strange how silent they are about lack of prayer being the cause when it happens in a Christian school.
And blaming trans people for this mass shooting is absurd. The vast majority of these incidents are perpetrated by white men, you don't see them blaming and wanting to ban white men.
They do not understand how to utilize logic.
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Mar 29 '23
Well, they never blame the white kids for being white the way they're trying blame trans shooters for being trans. like, Kevin Sorbo had the gaul to tweet a meme with 4 photos of shooters on it. You would need like 2,000+ photos to show the number of straight, white, cismale shooters there have been.
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u/zayoyayo Mar 29 '23
If there’s one thing Republicans are really bad at, it’s statistics.
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u/AthkoreLost Washington Mar 28 '23
It's especially odious this time bc they're also been engaging in the start of a fucking genocide against Trans people so this straight up puts lives at risk.
They're trying to direct the ire at school shootings AT trans people to accelerate their genocidal desires.
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u/Total_Customer_6627 Mar 28 '23
Twitter appears to have limited certain tweets from the official account of representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, after the Georgia Republican unfounded made claims about the Nashville school shooting being a product of “Antifa” and “trans-terrorism.”
This shit should get her account banned. She’s fanning hate towards trans people, and it’ll result in violence if it continues.
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u/TheKingofAndrews Nebraska Mar 28 '23
I saw all kinds of posts on the same topic just scrolling through twitter and the conservative talking point seems to be TRANS TRANS TRANS THEY WERE TRANS THATS WHY THEY SHOT THE KIDS. But we all know if they were black it would be just another day, if they were arabic, they would be a terrorist. If they were Mexican, they would be an illegal drug smuggler and violent rapist. There's a story every time
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u/Darzanak Florida Mar 28 '23
Anything to deflect from guns being the problem.
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u/Gonkar I voted Mar 28 '23 •
Yep. If this was a white Christian nationalist (as it is all too fucking often), the story would be "well this is really a mental health issue..."
And then every Republican would vote against any bills related to gun control or mental healthcare without so much as skipping a beat. The GOP is a party of sociopaths.
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u/powerwordjon Mar 29 '23
Check out The Conservative Daily Podcast. They just said every mass shooter in the last 10 years was a far leftist. No joke. These people live on a different planet and will gobble all these lies up
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u/Razakel United Kingdom Mar 29 '23
They just said every mass shooter in the last 10 years was a far leftist.
Yeah, but you're talking about people who claim that Nazis were left-wing, because they had "socialist" in their name.
They don't actually believe that. They know it's false. It's just a useful cudgel.
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u/BenSemisch Mar 29 '23
"All Nazis are left wing"
"So why are there Nazi flags at your rallies again?"
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u/Rimbob_job Missouri Mar 29 '23
Remember Sandy Hook? Remember people arguing for days about whether it’s right to even release the shooter’s details and give them notoriety? Now we release the info immediately so we can all play the blame game.
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u/CerberusTamen Mar 28 '23
Thousands of mass shootings over the decades.... The shooter for number 136 of this year was trans. Woah guys trans ppl so dangerous.
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u/bag_bag_ Mar 29 '23
I feel like, statistically, the probability of a trans person shooter is low. But given how many shootings we have, it was just a matter of time.
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u/The_Woman_of_Gont Mar 29 '23
Last year saw 695 mass shootings in this country. Estimates for the trans population are around 1.6% of the adult population according to a Pew poll. Other polls vary anywhere from .5% to 5%, depending upon demographic and the fairly wide statistical variance inherent to the difficulties of identifying how many members of a heavily discriminated minority actually exist.
At a bare minimum, if mass shootings were to mirror population data, around 3 or 4 of those mass shooters should have been trans. They were, in actuality, underrepresented.
Per Wikipedia, this year we are seeing a slight rise in mass shootings so far and are at 95 total at the moment. Meaning if we were to somehow get through the entire year without any more mass shootings and this was one of only a 4-5 shootings in March, the percentage of mass shooters who are trans would be roughly proportional with population data.
Reality of course is that this is most likely, as with previous years, going to be the sole shooting perpetrated by a trans person out of hundreds of mass shootings. But people are really bad with intuitively understanding how statistics work, especially when they don’t particularly like what the stats say, and if anything it’s actually notable how few trans mass shooters we have seen over the years.
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u/bag_bag_ Mar 29 '23
The timing for this shooting is terrible. This is going to devastating for the trans community
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u/RobManfred_Official Mar 29 '23
I'm basically certain that the self loathing ran so deep that that aspect was intentional.
"If I had to be this miserable than everyone should be". Maybe even some tg twist on accelerationism
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u/rosecoredarling Mar 29 '23 edited Mar 29 '23 •
I have to preface this by saying that 1) I'm trans and 2) this comment is by NO means an excuse for what happened and the shooter was an abominable person for what he did. I sincerely hope there's a hell so he can rot in it.
That said, what happened was almost certainly a result of what you said.
There's speculation (I don't know how true this is and frankly I'm not in the right mindset to look too deep into this) that the shooter went to that school or one like it in his youth. I wouldn't be surprised if he suffered greatly there considering his identity and the conflict between that and the things Presbyterian schools teach. Couple that with the persecution and attempted genocide of trans people currently happening in the world at large and especially in the US, and realize that something bad was always going to happen as a result. Republicans know this, by the way, they were counting on it, but I don't think even they expected it to happen like this.
edit: Sorry for the mixup, I was informed it's in fact a Presbyterian school, not a Catholic one. Doesn't make a difference as far as my point goes but still, fixed it!
Trans people (and the LGBTQ+ community as a whole) are some of the most empathetic and loving people in the world. We kinda have to be to endure what's happening to us on a daily basis. I hope everyone sees the pushback from our community against what happened and realizes that it really is just "a couple of bad apples" in our case. 3 Bad apples out of millions of people. That's enough to get them to condemn us all.
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u/KrazzeeKane Nevada Mar 29 '23
Amazing how those same conservatives who will use those 3 bad apples to condemn the whole trans "bunch" as it were, will then defend cops to the death against that same apples analogy, even though there have been far more "bad apple" examples for the 2nd group.
But hey, never put it past a republican to find any way to twist their own nonsense logic and reasoning to fit any possible shaped hole.
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u/Mike_Kermin Australia Mar 29 '23 edited Mar 29 '23
No it won't.
Hateful people will be the same. The rest of us will use the same ability to use our brain. The reality is if you have a gun problem like you do, let alone your fucked issue with school shootings, no shit you're going to get someone from x group eventually.
The fact that they're under represented when they of all people experience so much stress and persecution is by itself pretty nuts.
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u/dixiequick Mar 29 '23 edited Mar 29 '23
Someone on another thread crunched the numbers, and said that trans people are actually under represented as mass shooting perpetrators (that is a sentence I never expected to type), and there should be 3-4 more based on the statistics. Who is over represented, you may be asking? Straight, white males, who would have guessed?
Edit: just want to clarify that this was someone doing their own math, not a link to any official stat.
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u/betterwoke Mar 28 '23
But if it were a white Christian nationalist boy? He would be a lone wolf and there’s nothing that could be done.
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u/Warg247 Mar 29 '23
He was troubled and needed mental health help (but god forbid it is provided). Oh and he was also secret antifa false flag.
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u/Sedu Mar 29 '23
Given the sheer number of mass shootings in the US, one of them was going to be a trans person eventually just from statistics. This was not a great one for it to be, though. I don't even want to talk to my family for the next few weeks (I am trans, they can be shitty).
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Mar 28 '23
And if their white they are "a brother, a carpenter or a community member"
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u/MadDogTannen California Mar 28 '23
Usually, it's "lone wolf", because when it's a white guy, he's an outlier and race has nothing to do with it.
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u/dronesclubmember United Kingdom Mar 28 '23
Musk has a trans child, Musk has been engaging with accounts pushing transphobic teeets in the aftermath.
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u/SusanForeman Mar 28 '23
Funny how there's several thousand mass shootings in the past couple years, yet only... 3 trans shooters?
Let me calculate how many white men with white pride manifestos committed mass shootings.
Hold on, looks like I went past reddit's character limit.
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u/MadRaymer Mar 28 '23
It's also interesting how quiet the conspiracy theory crowd is on this shooting. No crisis actors? No false flag? They claim that about almost every mass shooting these days, yet this one they seem willing to accept as factual.
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u/ANGLVD3TH Mar 29 '23
There's already a /r/bestof thread of a reply to this post showing that given the number of shootings and percentage of the population is Trans, Trans mass shooters are underrepresented. They should have roughly twice as many shootings as they do. Of course, the mass shooting stats include any shooting with 2+ victims, so gang violence is disproportionately represented.
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u/The_Woman_of_Gont Mar 29 '23
It wouldn’t even be twice the number of shooters that “should” be trans.
They cite 4 trans mass shooters across multiple years. Which would bring the number of trans mass shooter to parity with population estimates….if we’re solely looking at 2022’s 697 mass shootings. And to be quite clear, that’s using the absolute smallest reasonable modern estimate of the trans population in the US you can find(.5%), which is almost undoubtedly significantly lowballing it.
The number of trans mass shooters is orders of magnitude lower than the number that we would expect to see going purely by population data.
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u/Twilight_Realm Mar 29 '23
And Musk wonders why his children and lovers fucking hate him
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u/Long_Before_Sunrise Mar 28 '23 edited Mar 28 '23
Twitter gave her back her personal account.
"Yet my official CONGRESSIONAL account was banned for 7 days for exposing Antifa’s plan for violence on the “Trans Day of Vengeance.”
"@elonmusk, can you explain?"
Edit: Wow, she was opposing the The Stop Forced Organ Harvesting Act this morning in her official Twitter account...
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u/Eggsegret Mar 28 '23
Whay the fuck is a trans day of Vengeance? Seriously how on earth does anyone take this woman seriously. She's absolutely mental.
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u/scswift Mar 28 '23
There is a Trans Day of Visibility that happens on March 31st every year:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Transgender_Day_of_Visibility
And there a fake poster going around on Twitter for a Trans Day of Vengeance on April 1st (April Fools Day), and these morons believe it's real.
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u/phaeton83 Mar 29 '23
They're not stupid, they're lying. It's an important difference.
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u/jebuscrimbus Mar 29 '23
Some are definitely stupid. Some are lying and stupid as is the case with Mrs. "Jewish Space-Lasers".
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u/Long_Before_Sunrise Mar 28 '23
It's a day of protest in DC against the anti-trans bills being passed. It was already scheduled. They just changed a word in what they are calling it.
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u/MagicalUnicornFart Mar 29 '23
Musk bought Twitter, specifically so people like her dont get banned.
People are still happy to use Twitter though.
https://twitter.com/ariehkovler/status/1595883060834213888
Musk is a fascist. Period.
It’s a propaganda network. They’re not interested in banning people like MTG. It’s there to amplify them.
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u/GBinAZ Mar 28 '23
Her, along with all her other terrorist friends. She’s by no means the only one posting this crap
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u/sluttttt California Mar 28 '23
When you have the owner of Twitter engaging positively with transphobes, then you're highly likely not going to see her get banned. She'd have to do a whole lot worse and sadly, she may be smart enough to realize that.
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u/Long_Before_Sunrise Mar 28 '23
She doesn't know when to stop. She's moved to her personal Twitter account to yell at Elon.
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u/jjjijjji Mar 28 '23 edited Mar 28 '23
How much do you want to bet that was a Twitter employee doing their job as they’re supposed to, and Elon is going to swan in at some point and reverse the decisions (and maybe even reprimand that person)?
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u/TheKingofAndrews Nebraska Mar 28 '23
I personally like to think Elon is the one that bans them and then unbans them so he can be the "Free speech" hero. (amplify this tweet by a factor of 300)
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u/jjjijjji Mar 28 '23 •
Very possible. He needs someone to need him.
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u/eightdx Massachusetts Mar 29 '23 •
You ever get the sense that the super rich can have almost anything except genuine companionship? Like, they have legions of fans, yes men, and piles upon piles of loot -- but they must always be troubled by the notion that without all that they could very well be nothing. That, at the end of the day, no one would choose them for who they are as people, and they're only chosen for access to loot and power.
I'm starting to think that the story of King Midas might be an allegory more should take to heart. When you turn everything to gold with a touch, it is perhaps more curse than blessing -- for it is a power that appears to poison everything.
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u/lonesomepicker Mar 29 '23
Randy Newman voice it’s lonely at the top….
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u/philko42 Mar 29 '23
Also Randy Newmans voice It's money that I love...
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u/Sad_Promotion_2233 Mar 29 '23
Again Randy Newmans voice It's a jungle out there...
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u/brother_of_menelaus Mar 29 '23
Still Randy Newman voice left foot, right foot, left foot, right foot…
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u/Nervous_Currency_469 Mar 29 '23
Stop stop stop!! We can’t afford all these royalty payments!
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u/BlakeHinsonTheDawg Mar 29 '23
Bruce Springsteen Poor man wanna be rich, rich man wanna be king, and a king ain't satisfied 'til he rules everything....
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u/maniamgood0 Mar 29 '23
From what I understand that's Notch's situation. He sold Minecraft for billions and suddenly had zero aim in life. He used to (maybe still does) post on social media about how fake interactions felt after he struck it uber rich. One post was "Hanging out in Ibiza with a bunch of friends and partying with famous people, able to do whatever I want, and I've never felt more alone."
I've often wondered what life would be like if I were a billionaire. As sweet as it would be to be able to purchase anything, I wouldn't be able to stand not trusting that any given interaction is genuine.
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u/Razakel United Kingdom Mar 29 '23
Having horrible political views to the extent that he was kicked out of his own company didn't exactly help.
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u/fredthefishlord Mar 29 '23
Interestingly, notch was actually heavily left leaning, doing things like respecting non-binary people, before he struck rich and left. He fell down some alt right pipeline at some point, likely due to the loneliness
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u/rafaelloaa I voted Mar 29 '23
Yup. Sadly alt right is really good at taking people who are lonely and feel anger at the world, and giving them an identity/place to be with others/explanation for why they feel angry.
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u/sturmhauke California Mar 29 '23
Falling into a rage hole is easy. Self reflection and figuring your shit out is fucking hard.
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u/silkythick Mar 29 '23
Billionaires always have the choice to not be billionaires anymore. You dont even have to become a pauper, you literally just have to live modestly and not flaunt your wealth.
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u/BBoru-1014 Mar 29 '23
Used to run yachts for millionaire’s and billionaires. For the most part very true.
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u/eightdx Massachusetts Mar 29 '23
I sometimes wonder what a DnD campaign with Elon Musk would be like. Just imagining him having to deal with any level of actual personal risk is sort of difficult. Having to work with teammates who are considered equals (and can literally just outvote or overpower him in game) would also probably be rough on him, as let me tell you this: good DnD players know to call out a bad idea as a bad idea, and aren't gonna be afraid to tell you you've gone insane.
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u/10g_or_bust Mar 29 '23 edited Mar 31 '23
I now want to see a DnD game with a bunch of the uber rich as players.
Edit: with the actual people, not fake/AI voices.
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u/Low_Pickle_112 Mar 29 '23
"There's a dragon attacking the town and hoarding all their gold while the hardworking peasants struggle!"
"...."
"He's the bad guy, you're supposed to go stop him."
"Who's up for golf?"
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u/moon-ho Mar 29 '23
"Mr. Dragon have you ever thought about mortgage backed default swaps? All I'm saying is that there's more than one way to enslave the peasants."
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u/Aadarm Mar 29 '23
Can we help the dragon diversify his assets and give him tips to keep his workers productive so he can earn more?
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u/ohdearsweetlord Mar 29 '23
And thus dismantling billionaires isn't just about making the rest of the population financially healthier, as they should be, because it's more sustainable that way, it's also about cutting mentally unhealthy people off from the source of their addictions. It's money.
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u/shellee51 Mar 29 '23
When money goes to the bottom rather than the top we get innovation.
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u/drokihazan California Mar 29 '23
I had a coworker once who was born into generational wealth. It was a sort of an open secret, but they were worth many many millions and grew up in that world in Hollywood. They worked at my very normal job and were somewhat ostracized from their family, mostly because it was the only way to be a normal person. When I had a late night talk with them about it once, the main topic of conversation was that their entire life they'd never been able to trust anyone and everyone always eventually wanted to use them for their money. They were deeply and fundamentally lonely.
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u/intotheirishole Mar 29 '23
Except you dont turn anything to gold by touch, you father just happened to own an apartheid gold mine...
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u/Warhawk137 Connecticut Mar 28 '23
"Who was the employee that banned them? Uh... fella named Melon Usk. Real woke hippie that one."
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I'm never going to read melon the same way again. Thanks a lot
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u/lackdueprocess Mar 28 '23
How very Trump of him. Cause a problem then claim to be the hero when you fix it.
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u/dustishb Mar 29 '23
Nah, Trump is more. Cause a problem, try to fix it, mess it up more, then tell everyone the results are great and everyone is talking about them.
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u/SwordofMine Mar 29 '23
Daily reminder: Elon Musk has a trans daughter, and he's not happy about it.
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u/ErraticDragon Mar 29 '23 edited Mar 29 '23
I was going to say, he's already amplifying the same kind of message as MTG.
Here's a screenshot that was posted to r/theydidthemath earlier, for those who don't want to click a Twitter link:
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u/6Buck6Satan6 Mar 29 '23
Hmm. Using that tweets logic, are cops being radicalized? Lots of killers identify as cops.
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u/ScottyC33 Mar 29 '23
Cops are absolutely being radicalized. Just look up that“killology” bullshit.
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u/Holy_Chupacabra Mar 29 '23
Here in KY our State Police were being trained with literal nazi ideology.
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u/GodOfDarkLaughter Mar 29 '23
And never forget, fucking someone after your murder someone is the best sex you'll ever have! You know, since you'll understand the sanctity of life and how precious our every moment is...after taking every moment from someone.
Yes, that's been a part of the course, at least as administered by the guy who came up with that whole pseudo scientific campaign of genocide. I dunno how often those he's trained talk about how great fucking is after you kill someone, but I imagine it's not the ideal of 0%.
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u/CyonHal Mar 29 '23
I'm genuinely disgusted by American politics. This is a new low for me. We're really going to radicalize organized violence against trans people at this rate, in 2023, in America. What the fuck is happening.
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u/pixlplayer Mar 29 '23
Oof, if you have to go back to 2018 to fill a list of 4 shootings you know you’re not arguing in good faith
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u/AuroraFinem Mar 29 '23
One of them is also not even trans, they co-opt’d being nonbinary during the trial to avoid a hate crime and then stopped identifying that way with no history prior to the trial.
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u/Malaix Mar 29 '23
Not just that it was also an example of what is known as black propaganda. Propaganda done in a way where you try to pretend it’s coming from a group you oppose to turn public opinion against them.
As opposed to grey propaganda where you try to hide the source entirely (both sides are the same spouting republicans are a good example of this) and white propaganda where you clearly signal where the propaganda is coming from and it’s intention.
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u/Brooklynxman Mar 29 '23
A transphobic lie.
We need to call out true lies more. Every piece of information besides the last sentence there is true, and in isolation they make the last sentence appears true. The earlier sentences are lies because they are framed so even without the last sentence the listener would think and believe that. They are lying with the truth, portraying without ever actually saying that some large portion of either mass shooters are trans people, trans people are mass shooters, or both, which is not true on either front.
Quick edit: I know the Colorado shooter's identity is in question, for the sake of this argument I'll accept it without question, it changes the math not at all.
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u/logansberries Texas Mar 29 '23
This is why I lost respect for Grimes for dating and mating with this man. There is no way that you can date someone like that, have children with them, and not at least agree with some of his views.
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u/OnTheEveOfWar Mar 29 '23
He’s got 10 kids. Probably never interacts with any of them.
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u/Rubberbabybuggybum Mar 29 '23
Watch the sub that tracks his jet.
Dude NEVER goes to visit his kids.
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u/erynhuff Mar 29 '23
And Grimes left him for Chelsea Manning. Hope his daughter is safe living her best life and pays her father’s tantrums no mind.
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u/KaEeben Mar 29 '23
His last wife also ended up dating a transgender women, chelsea manning
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u/nosotros_road_sodium California Mar 28 '23
I was thinking: "When you're too extreme for Elon Musk era Twitter you've gone too far", but given Elon's track record of retaliatory firings of employees, your question seems not very far fetched.
It was still funny to see Traitor Queene tagging Elon. It's like the "Karen" online caricature of her came to life.
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u/2010_12_24 Mar 29 '23
Reminds me of a joke I heard a comedian make.
Apparently George W. Bush got a DUI in Texas back in the seventies. Do you know how fucking drunk you had to be to get a DUI in the 70s? And in Texas of all places??!!
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u/tucker_case Mar 29 '23
I just want to remind everyone that Elon has a transgender child who has publicly disowned him...
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u/ma5enfan Mar 29 '23
All r/Conservative could talk about is how the shooter was trans. That liberals won’t know what to do since it was a trans shooter and the media going to spin it. How loud to we have to scream it…….WE DON’T FUCKING CARE IF THE SHOOTER IS GAY, STRAIGHT, TRANS, HE, HER OR THEY!!
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u/theotherbogart Mar 29 '23
They just don't get it. It's like them thinking Dems are trying to protect Hunter Biden. I don't care if it's Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, or Barack Obama -- if they commit a crime, they should be held accountable. I don't think liberals have a problem saying this shooter was a POS.
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u/ClicksAndASmell Mar 29 '23
They don't understand the basic concept of crimes.
To them, crimes are when a person is bad. Not when an illegal act is committed.
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u/Smoaktreess Massachusetts Mar 29 '23
Dems judge people by their actions, republicans judge actions by the people who commit them.
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u/karlthespaceman Mar 29 '23
The color of their skin rather than the content of their character
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u/Plasibeau Mar 29 '23
Am trans.
Shooter was a POS.
Also, yeah it's weird how they can't wrap their heads around how much we don't actually 'cheer for our team'. They seem to ignore how quickly the left will crucify any politician if even the whiff of sexual misconduct drifts by.
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u/zorrorak Mar 29 '23
R/conservative can't get enough of this incident. It's like something they've been waiting for their entire lives. I've never seen this much activity on their page in regards to a shooting before. I wonder why..
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u/umm_like_totes Mar 29 '23
Dude they're calling this a "win" because law enforcement was there and had the shooter down within 15 minutes. Fucking kids are dead but they're like "aww man the police needed this after Uvalde, thank god".
Trash people, I'm cutting everyone out of my life who still votes republican. I'm so fucking sick of these people.
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u/Bo_Dallas Mar 29 '23 •
The shooter was trans. We don't want potential shooters to have easy access to guns, conservatives do. It's a simple as that.
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u/trapper2530 Mar 29 '23
Watch em ban trans people from buying guns now or some shut.
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u/geeky_username California Mar 29 '23
If a trans person trans person taking testosterone is a problem for them, then maybe no men should be owning guns since testosterone is so dangerous
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u/TransFormAndFunction Mar 29 '23
Honestly when MTG said testosterone was dangerous I almost couldn't fucking believe it.... does she not know that cis men have high testosterone? Just insanely stupid
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u/StardustNyako Mar 29 '23
I love some of them are self-aware
Uh....not sure the right wants to play these games. Lots of left wing terrorists don't get me wrong but stop pretending we don't have our own issues
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u/Aftermath16 Mar 28 '23
So all the other shooters were shooters because they are cisgender?
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u/Travmizer Mar 29 '23
In 2021, 60 out of 61 active shooters were male according to the FBI. With stats like that, MTG would be more accurate saying this is male terrorism
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u/StifleStrife Mar 29 '23
This shit is a headache. These school shooters are all psychopath child killers, bullies, scum of the earth.
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u/amb0526 Mar 29 '23
Now do Matt Walsh, Charlie Kirk, Candace owens and all the other right wing grifters who have been on a nonstop crusade against the trans community since yesterday. Seriously the shit they are spewing is disgusting.
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u/soccerskyman Mar 29 '23
Matt Walsh especially. It's honestly insane to me that someone can openly call themselves a "theocratic fascist" in their twitter bio and post such blatant calls for extermination and not get banned.
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u/fourbian Mar 29 '23
Sometimes I wonder if their intent was to get canceled so they could go on a persecution tour and make bank off it. Pretty sure that was Trumps plan when he ran for president.
Then, they don't get canceled and in Trumps case he actually wins. Then they think "hey I can be the biggest piece of shit I want to be with absolutely no consequences. Sweet!"
And here we are, the grifters coming out of the woodwork like the floodgates of hell have opened. I feel like every day I learn about a new grifter bitching about woke and trans people, making money off ads and donations and running for office and even people that used to be my heroes (Chapelle) are all in on the cash grab.
Someone said it wisely, that conservative voters (particularly boomers) are the last untapped resource in this country and everyone's out there setting up rigs and extraction operations to siphon as much money as they can from this vast resource.
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u/Predzilla008 Mar 29 '23
And to think there are actual human beings that voted for this woman.
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u/2OneZebra Mar 28 '23
She shouldn't be on any social media. She is not working for the people of Georgia. She is working for social media exposure.
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u/lardlad71 Mar 29 '23
This tragedy is really bringing out the ignorant, evil, bigoted, reprehensible true colors of a lot of people. It’s all too clear how Trump got so many votes…. 46% of Americans are assholes.
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u/everybodydumb Mar 28 '23
Elon has a trans kid, fwiw
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u/HereForTwinkies Mar 28 '23
Had a trans kid. As soon as she turned 18 she emancipated herself. Literally.
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u/decjr06 Mar 28 '23
Can't even imagine how fucked up your life must be to have to emancipate yourself from one of the wealthiest people in the world
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u/basicxenocide Mar 29 '23
Goes to show that money isn't everything I guess. I wonder if there are any other examples of this in the past? Like kids we've never really heard much about.
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u/decjr06 Mar 29 '23
Seems likely, they would probably try to keep it out of the news cycle, social media has changed things a lot
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u/UWCG Illinois Mar 28 '23
Not only emancipated herself, I'm pretty sure she's completely cut him out of her life. Which, well, can't blame her.
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u/simplycycling Mar 28 '23
You wouldn't have to emancipate yourself once you're 18, no?
Asking seriously - I thought that was something that someone 17 or younger would have to do to legally get out from under their parents guardianship, but once 18, you can leave home if you please.
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u/artwarrior Mar 28 '23
And his recent girlfriend Grimes is in/ was in a relationship with Chelsea Manning .
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u/Meb2x Mar 28 '23
Considering Elon was amplifying hate towards the trans community yesterday, I fully expect this to be reversed soon. In fact, he’ll probably amplify her account or offer her the position of CEO.
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u/JayVenture90 Mar 29 '23
She's still on national security assignments. This is the Republican party, not just MTG.
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u/Capkirk0923 Mar 29 '23
And she calls her self a Christian? If the Jesus described in the Bible really exists, she better hope he was joking about the Lake of Fire.
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u/GuestCartographer Mar 29 '23
Imagine being so shitty that Elon Musk has to yank your microphone away.
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u/vengeful_toaster Mar 29 '23
Musk was promoting trans hate in a tweet blaming the school shooting on the trans community. Hes amplifying it at the same time.
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u/koolaid_snorkeler Mar 28 '23
She learned this shit from the best...just say any outrageous bullshit that pops into your head, and somebody is bound to believe it.
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u/Robinhood4real Mar 28 '23
Why is country being terrorized by Leatherface.
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u/PowertripSimp_AkaMOD Mar 29 '23
Seriously. The worst part of having to hear her shitty takes on everything is the news article with the inevitable close up pic of her looking vaguely human with a face that was molded out of silly putty.
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u/IAmTheJudasTree
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-8,000 mass shootings by straight, cis gender, mostly white, mostly conservative, men-
Conservatives: No pattern here.
-1 mass shooting by a trans person-
Conservatives: Ah, yes, clearly there's a correlation between being trans and committing mass shootings. Quick, to the Nazi-mobile.
Edit: Since this melted a few people's brains, I'm noting that the 8,000 number was intentional hyperbole. I thought that would be obvious, but that was apparently not the case.
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u/taffyowner Minnesota Mar 29 '23
How hard do you have to try to get banned on new twitter
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u/hudson_lowboy Mar 29 '23
I love how she thinks having an official congressional account makes it above the same guidelines everyone has to follow.
Twitter is a private company and not a press organisation. It’s not protected by free speech laws and since it’s not an actual government owned entity, there’s absolutely no need to give the appearance of being bipartisan.
Remove Musk from the equation, Twitter can do whatever it wants and it’s not obligated to care about fairness and being an official channel of government communication.
Green can say what she wants, but it doesn’t make her immune from consequences. She’s not a victim in any way.
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